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Message started by xhero on Mar 26th, 2016 at 10:12am

Title: HBC improvement
Post by xhero on Mar 26th, 2016 at 10:12am
hi guys,
I wasn't visiting the HBC for a while and just went there curious to see what was happening and check out new faces.
honestly, are you thinking about some improvement?
the video resolution is terrific low, but said that what's terrible wrong, and I hope you will work on it, it's how totally unfair is the HBC policy.
I mean (it's just my opinion) I would consider fair every model being forced to be in free chat 1st - I want to make sure to know what exactly I will see in a show - (unless they have a show with someone), then just one way of pvt chat. ok, eventually a kind of party chat with more customers too as an option. but those two options should be allowed only when someone's in the room paying for the show.
most models are online, in premium chat (if not fantasy...), empty room, their profile picture are super old, and you definitely cannot know what you are going to get in pvt, since they show pics in great shape, then, when you go in pvt many of them are in a terrific off season or anyway looking totally different than in the preview pics.
this is not fair.
once in the show they should go with some action too and not being money eater as many of them are.
models not respecting those rules should be banned. but the problem should not exist since there should not be any option allowing them to be in a an empty payment chat.
I may just be a drop in the ocean, and I am not anyway any kind of heavy user, but if I want to relax for a few and enjoy a show I am definitely not doing it unless there will be some drastic changes.
thanks guys hope to hear from you.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by fredericoperri on Mar 26th, 2016 at 12:47pm
Isn't video resolution a function of the equipment each model is using?  Some have good equipment, lighting, etc, others do not.

Not sure how HBC can legislate that...

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by labtecfriend on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:18am
To xherto..I am, and , have been, a big user of HBC. I agree that HBC is way behind in technology. There are SO many options in cam that a model can offer improvement in ways to better serve herself , and customers! I have spent a large amount here, in the last 10, or more years. I suggest, if there are not improvements, that models perhaps move to another site!

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:46pm
we have been developing a new platform that we are excited about, but its not quite ready for the switchover yet...we have been working hard to try and make it a better site for both models and our users

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by xhero on Mar 27th, 2016 at 7:20pm

Mike wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 2:46pm:
we have been developing a new platform that we are excited about, but its not quite ready for the switchover yet...we have been working hard to try and make it a better site for both models and our users

thanks for answering Mike, glad about the new platform, definitely curious about it, hope you will also seriously think about a more fair use of the chat room from models.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Mar 27th, 2016 at 7:37pm
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at some of the changes

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Alpha on Mar 28th, 2016 at 11:12am
Its true that the quality of the webcam site is on the decline, and part of that issue is also the choice of performers. Some of them, I swear, have never touched a weight in a gym for their entire life. How can they be on herBICEPScam?

In addition, with the possibilities at your hand (you know all the athletes) it would be great if some extras were on offer, that sets the site apart from others. For example: life cam at a pool party to watch for a small fee. Or real life meet and greet at the big events.

For christ sake, there is a guy in France who sets up FBB shows these days, for the fans. He has by far not the connections that you have, but he is just doing it. 

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by xhero on Mar 28th, 2016 at 4:31pm

Mike wrote on Mar 27th, 2016 at 7:37pm:
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at some of the changes


awesome, looking fwd to check it out :)

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Mar 29th, 2016 at 12:06am


its not up to me who goes on or who you spend money on...you vote with your wallets and the girls behave accordingly...if nobody wanted the bikini girls on, they wouldn't come on and make nothing

a lot of bikini competitors have been more popular than the biggest female bodybuilders we have on

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by kosh on Apr 1st, 2016 at 3:02am
Hope the switchover happens soon. TBH for me, the cam quality is so low, why even bother since the rates are comparitively high. I wish the tech upgrades were a priority here as other cam sites are just way ahead. I'm a big fan of fitness models and the regular site is awesome, but the cam site, in terms of quality really is lagging and makes me more hesistant to spend money on it, although I do now and then since some of my fav fitness models are only found here. I hope this is taken as a constructive comment, as I do appreciate that this involves a lot of work and investment.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Top_Dogg on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 6:29am
I hope the improvement can indicate when someone is about to go to private. It's EXTREMELY ANNOYING when one is either trying to talk on free chat and BOOM! It goes to private chat with no notice. I know I can't be the only one that gets annoyed when that happens.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Apr 4th, 2016 at 3:53am
How exactly would you suggest it happen?

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Top_Dogg on Apr 4th, 2016 at 6:28am
I don't know how that kind of technology works, but I was thinking more on the lines of a delay or a mini-countdown (3-5 seconds). That would be my suggestion. As mentioned before, I have no clue how webcam technology works.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Apr 5th, 2016 at 12:34am
it should give you the option to join the paid chat if its not 1-on-1...otherwise, not sure why we need a countdown...obviously, the guy wanting to go private wants to do that quickly...and its in the performer's best interest not to delay that happening either

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by xhero on Apr 5th, 2016 at 4:08pm

Mike wrote on Apr 5th, 2016 at 12:34am:
it should give you the option to join the paid chat if its not 1-on-1...otherwise, not sure why we need a countdown...obviously, the guy wanting to go private wants to do that quickly...and its in the performer's best interest not to delay that happening either


I guess you can follow the example of livejasmin or cams, they works pretty good, they are leader in that business and I guess they pay a lot of attention to their models and customers feedback to improve the service.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Apr 6th, 2016 at 2:51pm
And how do they do it when a model jumps to private? My experience is that it happens without a countdown.  Unless it's a gold show or planned group show.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by xhero on Apr 6th, 2016 at 4:41pm
the only feature that I appreciate about website like that is that a model can't go in private room if it's empty.
they are forced to be in free chat unless someone get them for a pvt show. I would just improve that feature on HBC, but I guess it's something planned yet. thanks for your reply:)

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Maric on Apr 7th, 2016 at 12:03pm
Years ago, on the previous site, the cams were giving a smooth feed, now in some cases it became really slow, seconds per frame for a lot of performers.

The site was bad pretty much from the beginning.

If you fix that, and if you lift the ban on certain countries, including my own, i would be tempted to put money here again.

For no other reason however.

If i want to put money now, i should be able to.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:34pm
We are fixing that one issue...I think people will like a lot of the new features including performers not being able to go private without a customer and our new happy hour feature.  Of course, we are hoping for a vast improvement in video quality and overall functionality.  That said, I have no doubts we will see a lot of bugs early in the process.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by xhero on Apr 7th, 2016 at 5:03pm

Mike wrote on Apr 7th, 2016 at 2:34pm:
We are fixing that one issue...I think people will like a lot of the new features including performers not being able to go private without a customer and our new happy hour feature.  Of course, we are hoping for a vast improvement in video quality and overall functionality.  That said, I have no doubts we will see a lot of bugs early in the process.

that's awesome Mike, no doubt, performers not being able to go private without customer is the best option (IMO).
bugs in an early process is expected, I think (and hope) customers will understand that, I am pretty sure you will be able to fix it day bu day, nothing can start being perfect since the very beginning.
at this point I am pretty curious to see it :)

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by prime on Apr 12th, 2016 at 5:00am
Waiting for the improved site is like waiting for the new Wintersun album.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Apr 12th, 2016 at 5:33am
My current estimate on the new cam site launch is late May/early June.  My current estimate on the new main site launch is July/August

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by xhero on Apr 12th, 2016 at 2:58pm
cool news!

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by OH on May 31st, 2016 at 11:25pm

Mike wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 5:33am:
My current estimate on the new cam site launch is late May/early June.  My current estimate on the new main site launch is July/August


Mike hopefully these improvements happen soon.  The models who hide out in premium chat are killing HBC.  I'm sure its too late, but if you've still got time I have some ideas you could incorporate.

-ability to rate models and add hashtags
-ability to sort models by room status (free/premium/etc)
-ability to sort/find models by country
-ability to have "favorite models"
-show when the models were last online
-and most importantly, models can't go into premium unless they have someone in with them  ;D

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jun 1st, 2016 at 3:26pm
some good suggestions...do you guys want to see a screen shot of the new chat room?

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by OH on Jun 1st, 2016 at 9:35pm
Um, does a bear poop in the woods?  Is the Pope Catholic?  ;D Yeah! That'd be sweet Mike!

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by jumponit on Jun 2nd, 2016 at 10:35pm
A huge thing would be the reestablishment of email notifications when a model goes online. Sure beats refreshing the page.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 12:08am
this is just a taste...of the chat room view...but it'll give you a sense of the broader amount of functionality on the new site and of course of the new look and style

http://herbiceps.com/samples/QuickClip_Confirmation.jpg

note that the video will broadcast in HD for those models having the right speed and equipment...and that the video window will be adjustable in terms of dragging it out to make it bigger, etc etc

the quick clips is going to be a new feature where each time a model logs on, she can do quick 12 second video samples of any particular body part she wants to show off...they are real cheap so its an easy way to get an idea of what the model looks like, what she's wearing, if her legs look good, etc etc without having to ask her to flex for you in the free room...you can still do it...and its just an option for the models to take advantage of

The "Flexing On These Hoes" is a daily posted chatroom topic where the model can say anything she wants...useful if she wants to let everybody know she's 2 weeks out from her show or if she wants to ask people to not ask her about sessions, or whatever

and all the little icons to the right of the chat box allow you to favorite the model, look at her profile, look at her videos, email her through the site messaging system (yes, you can attach a picture), read her chat room rules, take notes for your own personal edification, view other online models, make a deposit and turn on your own webcam

all these things will replace the chat box so you can look around, do those things without losing her video feed or opening up a new window

would love to hear thoughts and get any and all feedback...happy to answer questions

I've referenced a few of the new features, but there's more to discuss soon




Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by xhero on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 10:19am
this is looking outstanding Mike, I have been away from HBC for a Century but I am definitely gonna give a look and most probably enjoy with it will be ready, it looks like a great work!

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by OH on Jun 4th, 2016 at 2:02pm
So HBC is going to be based on credits?  What's the conversion on $$ to credits?  Are models going to still be able to tell how much $$/funds the members have?


Mike wrote on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 12:08am:
this is just a taste...of the chat room view...but it'll give you a sense of the broader amount of functionality on the new site and of course of the new look and style

http://herbiceps.com/samples/QuickClip_Confirmation.jpg

note that the video will broadcast in HD for those models having the right speed and equipment...and that the video window will be adjustable in terms of dragging it out to make it bigger, etc etc

the quick clips is going to be a new feature where each time a model logs on, she can do quick 12 second video samples of any particular body part she wants to show off...they are real cheap so its an easy way to get an idea of what the model looks like, what she's wearing, if her legs look good, etc etc without having to ask her to flex for you in the free room...you can still do it...and its just an option for the models to take advantage of

The "Flexing On These Hoes" is a daily posted chatroom topic where the model can say anything she wants...useful if she wants to let everybody know she's 2 weeks out from her show or if she wants to ask people to not ask her about sessions, or whatever

and all the little icons to the right of the chat box allow you to favorite the model, look at her profile, look at her videos, email her through the site messaging system (yes, you can attach a picture), read her chat room rules, take notes for your own personal edification, view other online models, make a deposit and turn on your own webcam

all these things will replace the chat box so you can look around, do those things without losing her video feed or opening up a new window

would love to hear thoughts and get any and all feedback...happy to answer questions

I've referenced a few of the new features, but there's more to discuss soon

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by jumponit on Jun 5th, 2016 at 1:31am
Seems to have everything. Only thing I can think of is a notification via email when one of your favorite models logs on.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jun 5th, 2016 at 3:36am
Credits will replace dollars and cents yes...so 100 dollars will be 1,000 credits...prices and bonuses pretty much will be the same...but the new messaging system (intra site email) will hopefully get models more into communicating with the guys who frequent their rooms...you're going to be able to join a model's fan club and receive their emails through the site...they can send progress or hot pictures or just let you guys know when they're going on and what's going on with them, etc etc

models are also going to be able to offer happy hour a few hours per week where their prices will drop 20-50% based on what they want to offer...this is an option for them to use

acutal email notifications when your favorite logs in is no longer an option because its seen as spam by most ISPs and led to our emails being in people's junk folders etc etc...so the internal email system should be cool for that

and now you'll also be able to email them through the site, easy and conveniently...if you join the VIP program (10 bucks a month or 20 for every 3 months), you'll get a certain amount of free messages to send to models plus a discount off their videos and quick clips...and special chat room stuff as well

flirting with the idea of letting members record videos with their own webcam and send them to models with the email system...imagine wishing them happy birthday, happy v-day, or just letting them know you want to jump their bones via video message...or of course anything else...worth a few bucks, and of course is only for people who want to do it

the site won't open with every feature in place, but many of them will be...and V2 and V3 should be even better...I'm pretty excited about it if you couldn't tell

the site is also going to be much much better for models who want to actively engage and be great performers...some won't like not being able to camp out in the private rooms anymore, but we are giving them a ton of tools to make money and connect with their favorite guys on the site...and the whole thing should run faster (hopefully) and be on HD video, etc etc...

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by st1fler on Jun 18th, 2016 at 10:21pm
So uh....when is this upgrade supposed to happen?

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by aggieman on Jul 4th, 2016 at 6:29am
Yes .. when is it coming?  Getting a little antsy here  :o

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jul 4th, 2016 at 9:11am
I believe it will be coming in August

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by kiwi on Jul 18th, 2016 at 9:41am
I think I have the same opinion with you. I think this is necessary

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by kiwi on Jul 18th, 2016 at 9:42am
Thanks for your sharing

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Top_Dogg on Aug 18th, 2016 at 2:08am
Going along with what I said earlier (which I STILL think needs to be implemented somehow) there needs to be a set time of how long people are in private and one-on-one. I think there are some people who get on a chat and stay on there for FAR TOO LONG, especially the one-on-one. They should be aware that a) there are others that would like to chat with them and b) the performers have other things to do, even though webcam for some is THEIR primary source of income. Sometimes, I think some customers stay on one-on-one on purpose just to antagonize other people, and it's quite annoying.

Sadly, I don't how how to incorporate a system like that so performers can get paid a good amount and ALL customers can get their money's worth.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Irv on Aug 18th, 2016 at 12:55pm

Mike wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 9:11am:
I believe it will be coming in August

So half of Agust is done... When is upgrade coming ?:)

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by comp on Aug 18th, 2016 at 2:55pm

Top_Dogg wrote on Aug 18th, 2016 at 2:08am:
Sadly, I don't how how to incorporate a system like that so performers can get paid a good amount and ALL customers can get their money's worth.


Actually there is a solution, one that you won't like: raise the prices.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Aug 18th, 2016 at 9:35pm
we are getting pretty close

the idea that we would put a time limit on somebody being in one on one with a model is insane

models can end chats any time they like...but I advise models to never "hang up" on a client if they don't have to

on the new site, you'll be able to email each model within the site, and send her pics or receive pics, etc etc...so I think that'll be a way of getting through to the girls even if you miss them on some particular occasion

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by comp on Aug 19th, 2016 at 12:32am

Mike wrote on Aug 18th, 2016 at 9:35pm:
the idea that we would put a time limit on somebody being in one on one with a model is insane


That's exactly right. If a guy is in one-on-one for an hour and spends up to $479.40 only to get kicked out because of an absurd limit, he'd be pissed, and rightfully so. Realistically, the guy would go back in free chat and she'd accept his request while declining other people's (unless he doesn't show up again).

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by hellolo on Aug 28th, 2016 at 9:28pm

Mike wrote on Jul 4th, 2016 at 9:11am:
I believe it will be coming in August



for August 2016 it starts being a bit tight, will it be August 2017 2018 or 2020?

Just think of the following thing, the more takes time to put on the new system the higher the expectations for the new system will be because in between other sites improved too!

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Aug 29th, 2016 at 9:46pm
We didn't make the August estimate...but we are closer...just gave the developers another batch of fixes and corrections and they are estimating another 2 weeks to get those done...from there, we will do some more testing and hopefully will be up by mid-October actually running on the new platform

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by oazaro3 on Oct 11th, 2016 at 6:07am

Mike wrote on Aug 29th, 2016 at 9:46pm:
We didn't make the August estimate...but we are closer...just gave the developers another batch of fixes and corrections and they are estimating another 2 weeks to get those done...from there, we will do some more testing and hopefully will be up by mid-October actually running on the new platform


What's the progress now?

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Oct 11th, 2016 at 7:46pm
we've got 80-90% of those bugs fixed...have found a few more...its a frustrating but necessary process...I feel like we are only 2-4 weeks away at this point

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by oazaro3 on Oct 11th, 2016 at 8:16pm

Mike wrote on Oct 11th, 2016 at 7:46pm:
we've got 80-90% of those bugs fixed...have found a few more...its a frustrating but necessary process...I feel like we are only 2-4 weeks away at this point


8-)  When all is said and done, no other female muscle site will compare, ever.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Oct 11th, 2016 at 9:43pm
thanks, buddy...appreciate the support

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by oazaro3 on Oct 12th, 2016 at 5:36am

Mike wrote on Jun 3rd, 2016 at 12:08am:
this is just a taste...of the chat room view...but it'll give you a sense of the broader amount of functionality on the new site and of course of the new look and style

http://herbiceps.com/samples/QuickClip_Confirmation.jpg

note that the video will broadcast in HD for those models having the right speed and equipment...and that the video window will be adjustable in terms of dragging it out to make it bigger, etc etc

the quick clips is going to be a new feature where each time a model logs on, she can do quick 12 second video samples of any particular body part she wants to show off...they are real cheap so its an easy way to get an idea of what the model looks like, what she's wearing, if her legs look good, etc etc without having to ask her to flex for you in the free room...you can still do it...and its just an option for the models to take advantage of

The "Flexing On These Hoes" is a daily posted chatroom topic where the model can say anything she wants...useful if she wants to let everybody know she's 2 weeks out from her show or if she wants to ask people to not ask her about sessions, or whatever

and all the little icons to the right of the chat box allow you to favorite the model, look at her profile, look at her videos, email her through the site messaging system (yes, you can attach a picture), read her chat room rules, take notes for your own personal edification, view other online models, make a deposit and turn on your own webcam

all these things will replace the chat box so you can look around, do those things without losing her video feed or opening up a new window

would love to hear thoughts and get any and all feedback...happy to answer questions

I've referenced a few of the new features, but there's more to discuss soon


Looks good.  Will there be a way to see the last login date for a model?  To get a sense of which models still use the site or not.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by iwsn on Nov 9th, 2016 at 2:54pm
Sooooooooooooooooooooo, when is the schedule release of the new site now. Nearly 4 weeks from the 11th of October now :-)

New layout looks great, can't wait to try it.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Nov 9th, 2016 at 8:57pm
can't wait to launch it...but 2 persistent issues still exist...one has to do with interoperability with operating systems (macs broadcasting to pcs and vice versa) and the other is also a little complicated...we've shot down several hundred other bugs...and only have a short list left...hesitant to keep giving out potential launch dates...when I have one, I'll let you know

also have features we are already developing for the next version...improving the hbc messaging/mail features is a big priority...and allowing users to send pics and videos to models offline is another for example

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by iwsn on Nov 10th, 2016 at 8:44am
Sounds I will have to be a little more patient then :-). Hope you can get your bugs sorted soon.

I appreciate that you don't want to keep giving out release dates, only to have to postpone it.

Keep up the good work.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Maric on Nov 11th, 2016 at 6:54pm
Are you going to unblock certain countries from adding funds directly in the new site?

Because for me at least, there is no other way i'll be using this site again.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by muscleluvr on Nov 12th, 2016 at 12:23am
Might be too late for suggestions but I’ve just had an idea about voyeur mode…

If the new version of HBC has a “voyeur” mode, then I think models should have the option of deactivating it. In the past when I have used voyeur mode (either as a money-saving option when I am low on credits or simply to get an idea of the sort of show that a model offers), I have been met with one of two reactions: Either the model is delighted to have more viewers for their show and is happy to perform for a larger audience, or they are horrified that someone has “interrupted” their performance and immediately covers up/moves the camera etc.

If models had control over whether or not voyeurs were allowed, then I think it would remove this awkwardness. So then if I go into a show as a voyeur, I’ll do so safe in the knowledge that it’s something the model is comfortable with.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Nov 13th, 2016 at 8:10am
you know, I've never had a model complain to us about voyeur mode...but this isn't a bad idea...it won't be on the first version of the new site, but I may decide to include it in future versions

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Nov 13th, 2016 at 9:35am
personally i think voyeur mode is a very good think, especially if you want to see more girls than just one. This suggestion is good but i think they can  already deactivate it this option if they dont want it, and leave only the one on one. Of course this is not logic so that's why the majority of the girls  leave all the categories.  I have to agree that when you are a voyeur , you cant see what you would like but only the things that the model will select, as man who see someone else in the site, usually leave  the chat.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by ruebe152001 on Nov 14th, 2016 at 12:06am
will there also be more payment options like for example on livejasmin and mfc?

Cause i like to use paypal or bank transfer stuff to add credits

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by amooth on Dec 17th, 2016 at 12:12am
HI all , i Have question about model in HBC
she has naked name "FiTJill"
who is she ?

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Alpha on Jan 7th, 2017 at 9:55pm
Some of the perfomers dont seem to be all that happy that they have to start in free

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by aggieman on Jan 19th, 2017 at 5:10am
Any one else notice that, when writing to a performer, the last line or two of what you have written is NOT immediately visible above?  It only becomes visible a line or two later, unless you go up there and scroll down.  It's an obvious and annoying bug.  Also the chat screen is pretty inefficient, with too much space between lines, so you can't see much of your chat history (again, unless you scroll up.)  It was better on the old platform.  Comments? :-/

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by labtecfriend on Jan 19th, 2017 at 8:50am
agree with aggieman

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jan 19th, 2017 at 8:40pm
Email us for paypal, looking into other ways to pay, but nothing on tap right now

the best email is help@herbicepscam.com for quickest service


ruebe152001 wrote on Nov 14th, 2016 at 12:06am:
will there also be more payment options like for example on livejasmin and mfc?

Cause i like to use paypal or bank transfer stuff to add credits


Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jan 19th, 2017 at 8:52pm
We don't give out model's real names and please don't post it anywhere...this would make it harder to get girls to go on webcam


amooth wrote on Dec 17th, 2016 at 12:12am:
HI all , i Have question about model in HBC
she has naked name "FiTJill"
who is she ?



Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jan 19th, 2017 at 8:56pm
some are not, most have gotten used to it...we are going to be adding it back at some point soon, for certain models (but not all)


Alpha wrote on Jan 7th, 2017 at 9:55pm:
Some of the perfomers dont seem to be all that happy that they have to start in free


Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jan 19th, 2017 at 8:58pm
Are you on a small monitor?  Have you tried decreasing the size of the font in the settings wheel in chat or in the upper right hand corner of the browser window (for site-wide adjustment)


aggieman wrote on Jan 19th, 2017 at 5:10am:
Any one else notice that, when writing to a performer, the last line or two of what you have written is NOT immediately visible above?  It only becomes visible a line or two later, unless you go up there and scroll down.  It's an obvious and annoying bug.  Also the chat screen is pretty inefficient, with too much space between lines, so you can't see much of your chat history (again, unless you scroll up.)  It was better on the old platform.  Comments? :-/

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Jan 21st, 2017 at 6:28pm
what do you mean, by saying you will adding it back for certain models ; if a model see or learn that an other model [because is well known or  more famous than her  or something else], can star t on premum if she wants,  is definity sure, that she will want that too. So if a model learn, that others can not start in free, they will definitely ask for that too, so we will return to the past. Hope you dont change these thing, which definitely has helped the site, as we can see models that we couldht before. Personally i dont see models been unhappy about that, but only with the problems with the cam which have been fixed now .

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 12:14am
we are going to allow it for our most veteran performers...not for our new performers...based on lifetime earnings

but we will reserve the right to pull the privilege from performers who leave their rooms empty while waiting for customers or otherwise act in bad faith

the great thing is that a lot of models who usually kept themselves in private have had to engage with customers in free for the last 2 months...and some have turned out to be very good at it and made more money than usual because of it...so I'll expect those women may continue to choose to at least more often go into free chat...but for the models that haven't logged on because of it or find they've done worse or just don't have the patience for it, they'll be able to go back to the way they prefer to do things

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 9:24am
ok thats your opinion, and i respect it, But in my opinion, one of the  best things that happened  is  that the models start always from free and cant  pretend to be on premium and now  this  thing is  being changed again. I cant understand while that will help the site, since we will return to the past, and they will always been on premium. All men, at least 8 per 10, will and would not, take a girl premium if he wouldhnt see her first, to see if she is as perfect as in the pics, while some of them, wouldht be as they seem to be.. Now  that this thing has been fixed, and i am sure, the site must have a lot of more earnings than it used, we will return to the past; someone would ask, why dont we bring back the previous site therefore; So if we return to the past, i think noone will be happy, and the premium chats with active members , wont be as many as now. Finally as you said to, if a model is able to surpise their customers in free, as a lot of  them are, you must have seen that some of them, are not in free for over 1 minute. Thats my opinion, my view of the things.
Has any of the models say that isht coming to the site, because of this and any of the active models;

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Maric on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 8:26pm
Don't enter rooms of girls waiting in premium. End of story.

I know i don't. When the old site was up anyway.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Jan 22nd, 2017 at 9:35pm
I dont think there are people who will take a model in premium with out seeing her first.  If models are unhappy with being on free chat, so why do they enter a chat;; if they want to be on premium all the day, why do they enter a site which requires first the chat and then the pvt show; . Do they believe that because they are veterans or because they have good pictures or are famous, we will take them on premum, without see their current condition;I never understood this thing.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 5:41am
Many models are tired of the free chat after a long time on the site.  So, they prefer to have the ability to not do it.  They are ok making less money sometimes for their own sanity, or so I've been told.  But its also true that some models did better when not going into free.  As for the site as a whole, its about the same.

We have actually have about 5-10 models not log in or log in infrequently when they used to do a lot of logging in and this is the reason they tell me why.

And yes, if you don't like models doing this, you can simply vote with your feet/wallet and not join them. 

I do think many models who liked to do that on the old site have realized they also can go into free and do as well or better without being as bored.


Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 8:48am

Mike wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 5:41am:
Many models are tired of the free chat after a long time on the site.  So, they prefer to have the ability to not do it.  They are ok making less money sometimes for their own sanity, or so I've been told.  But its also true that some models did better when not going into free.  As for the site as a whole, its about the same.

We have actually have about 5-10 models not log in or log in infrequently when they used to do a lot of logging in and this is the reason they tell me why.

And yes, if you don't like models doing this, you can simply vote with your feet/wallet and not join them. 

I do think many models who liked to do that on the old site have realized they also can go into free and do as well or better without being as bored.
ok i undertand.When are you planning to make this change, will it be exactly like in the previous site;i have to suggest something. If you are going to do it this, i think we must BE all happy, and not only the models. So i suggest for the models, who will have the ability to stay on premium as long as  they want with noone joining their chat,  to take the 10 second video when they flex a part of their body, and make  it , in a category on their profile, so we can be able to watch  them  at least 10 seconds, to see if they are looking as in the pics, and then taking them to private.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Maric on Jan 26th, 2017 at 3:32am
Sanity of models or not, the reason i won't ever join a premium camper is that mainly, you have to see something first.

Are they ripped? Off season? Do you like something specific? Does she know specific stuff that you might be interested in, does she offer what you are looking for?

How will you know if she only camps in premium? You're gonna lose more money to chat and find out, sometimes for nothing.

It's not sanity, it's a nice way to disguise that you are forced to pay more for less. So no, never enter their rooms.

And never enter rooms of girls that fix the camera only on their face, so you have no idea even what condition she is in.

The hell with them.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by jumponit on Jan 30th, 2017 at 1:34am
Is there a way to make the online models list static? It sometimes takes 7 or 8 clicks to get into the room I want, which is way too many.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jan 30th, 2017 at 5:51am
What browser are you using?  We suggest chrome for PCs and Safari for macs...I've done a lot of testing and haven't had this issue you are describing

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Jan 30th, 2017 at 10:10pm

Mike wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 5:41am:
Many models are tired of the free chat after a long time on the site.  So, they prefer to have the ability to not do it.  They are ok making less money sometimes for their own sanity, or so I've been told.  But its also true that some models did better when not going into free.  As for the site as a whole, its about the same.

We have actually have about 5-10 models not log in or log in infrequently when they used to do a lot of logging in and this is the reason they tell me why.

And yes, if you don't like models doing this, you can simply vote with your feet/wallet and not join them. 

I do think many models who liked to do that on the old site have realized they also can go into free and do as well or better without being as bored.
If i noticed right, the models can now pretend to be on premium right; for which models is this thing; Hope you have inform these models that werent logged in cause of this, that they can do the things  now, as they want  , and see them in the next days. :)

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by jumponit on Jan 31st, 2017 at 1:22am

Mike wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 5:51am:
What browser are you using?  We suggest chrome for PCs and Safari for macs...I've done a lot of testing and haven't had this issue you are describing


Didn't know about the Safari rec.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by jumponit on Jan 31st, 2017 at 1:23am
For the online notifications that pop up in the bottom-left corner, can you change it so that it links to the chatroom instead of the profile page? Anyone clicking on that is doing it to see the model live, not to see their profile - they're already a fan (joining the fan club turns the notifications on).

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jan 31st, 2017 at 9:54pm
We are testing the new functionality out with a small handful of models, only 3-4 to start with for bug-testing purposes.  Physique_Princess, AmazonKa and can't remember the other or others offhand.  I'm not in charge of the testing.

Those models are still welcome to go to the free room whenever they want.  In the future, once we have made sure its not buggy, we will let all models who have earned a certain amount of money on the site to have this option like they did before, but all newcomers will not be given this choice.  Additionally, if a model abuses the privlege, we can take it away from them.



herbicepsbiggestfan wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 10:10pm:
If i noticed right, the models can now pretend to be on premium right; for which models is this thing; Hope you have inform these models that werent logged in cause of this, that they can do the things  now, as they want  , and see them in the next days. :)


Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jan 31st, 2017 at 9:57pm
Its in the New Site Info on the site...and in a newsletter we sent out for all users (you can find this and more there, go to dashboard, my messages, news)


jumponit wrote on Jan 31st, 2017 at 1:22am:

Mike wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 5:51am:
What browser are you using?  We suggest chrome for PCs and Safari for macs...I've done a lot of testing and haven't had this issue you are describing


Didn't know about the Safari rec.


Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Feb 1st, 2017 at 9:11pm
Thanks for the bug note ---> the underlying issue should be resolved and the UI should be improved. The list is still dynamic but much less jumpy. We removed a 2nd layer reload that was running on the page every 60 seconds. The reload was jumbling all the model thumbs every time.


jumponit wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 1:34am:
Is there a way to make the online models list static? It sometimes takes 7 or 8 clicks to get into the room I want, which is way too many.


Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Feb 2nd, 2017 at 10:47pm
Good idea. Thanks.

Done and live on the site.


jumponit wrote on Jan 31st, 2017 at 1:23am:
For the online notifications that pop up in the bottom-left corner, can you change it so that it links to the chatroom instead of the profile page? Anyone clicking on that is doing it to see the model live, not to see their profile - they're already a fan (joining the fan club turns the notifications on).


Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by muscleluvr on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 6:44am
I love the new videos section on the site, the quality is so much better than the old site.

But something that would be really useful would be the ability to sort the videos so that the most recently-added videos appeared at the top of the page.

At the moment it's possible to sort by Popularity, Price, Length and Rating, but not by "Date Added".

Would it be possible to add this option as it would make it much easier to find new videos? Because at the moment the only way to find new videos is to scroll through the entire list, which will become increasingly time-consuming as more and more videos are added to the site.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 7:25am
We have a redesign of the video section coming next week hopefully

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Feb 9th, 2017 at 11:57pm
this is the first part...more to come...in terms of the mouse overs and thumbnails...but we added categories and sorting, etc etc

let me know what you think...

https://www.herbicepscam.com/videos/

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by labtecfriend on Feb 10th, 2017 at 9:02am
Mike, was my understanding that a model could be asked to film a PVT, for a fee, and be available for MY EYES ONLY. Is that avaliable? And,are models aware, if possible?

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Feb 10th, 2017 at 9:19am
We disabled that option for now because the models mostly weren't understanding how it was working...we Mah give models the option to do it in the future

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by muscleluvr on Feb 12th, 2017 at 8:34am
I think I've found a problem with the videos page... I can click a model's username to only shows videos uploaded by that particular model, but then as far as I can see there isn't a way to remove the filter and show all videos again.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Feb 13th, 2017 at 9:13pm
thanks, yeah there's still some bugs...should have them ironed out in a few days...mostly...hopefully :)

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by daviedee on Feb 13th, 2017 at 10:16pm
Just to let you know if you don't already . The site seems to be having a connection problem for the performers .

Daviedee

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Feb 14th, 2017 at 11:58am
Did you add  any new things on the site; For example, i see ''waiting premium ''. So this means that noone is one the chat, and they wait for someone  to visit her , right; And when it is saying ''join premium'' does that mean, that i can join the chat as voeyer and there is a member on the site, and they arent alone, as they use to pretend to be;

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Maric on Feb 14th, 2017 at 4:07pm
/rant on

There is a feature i would like just for the heck of it.

A feedback like feature besides reviews, that everyone leaves with 5 stars after minutes of premium time.

An ignore feature for us, where the model sees who is ignoring her, and we can leave a reason why. She won't appear on our feed at who's online with ignore.

It's not necessary or anything, but some of them are really worth the ignore feature.

-.-

/rant off

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Feb 15th, 2017 at 12:04am

daviedee wrote on Feb 13th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
Just to let you know if you don't already . The site seems to be having a connection problem for the performers .

Daviedee



Yes, thanks...we still are getting a model server crash every few days and still investigating the source...we cleared up most of them, but this one is still something we are working on...so if you see all models log off or having trouble connecting at once, that's what happened and it usually gets fixed with the auto-reboot which takes 10-ish minutes

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Funicular on Feb 15th, 2017 at 11:41am

Mike wrote on Jan 23rd, 2017 at 5:41am:
Many models are tired of the free chat after a long time on the site.  So, they prefer to have the ability to not do it.  They are ok making less money sometimes for their own sanity, or so I've been told.  But its also true that some models did better when not going into free.  As for the site as a whole, its about the same.

We have actually have about 5-10 models not log in or log in infrequently when they used to do a lot of logging in and this is the reason they tell me why.

And yes, if you don't like models doing this, you can simply vote with your feet/wallet and not join them. 

I do think many models who liked to do that on the old site have realized they also can go into free and do as well or better without being as bored.


Waiting for premium. Wow, that didn’t take long. Why does the balance have to be so heavily weighted towards the models rather than the customers? Is it so much to ask to be able to make some sort of informed choice about who we spend our money (in exorbitant amounts) on? I was so excited about the new site, not because of the fan clubs, the new credits system or any of the other “features” that could at best be described as gloss if they even worked, but for the simple reason that it finally meant an end to spending $3-5 a time just to see what shape a model was in. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve had to spend money to find that, sure enough, those profile photos are indeed more than 10 years old, or worse that the model isn’t even there at the computer.

I know exactly who you mean when you say there are models who used to log in daily but don’t do so any more because they have to stay in free chat with the proles. Over the years I’ve probably spent $30 on the privilege of looking at their empty chairs. Let them leave, I say.

And it’s not like there’s any alternative way to make an informed choice. There’s no way to order profile pictures by date, there’s no policy, or even a recommendation, that models should post a recent pic, and the review system is an absolute joke. It’s no help at all to read a series of 5-star ratings only from people who have just spent $100 on a one-to-one session. If I’m willing to spend that money on someone, of course I’m a fan and of course I’m going to give her 5 stars – that is if I’m quick enough to do so in the 10 seconds before the window disappears. I don’t want to read comments from other obsessed schmoes like me, I want to hear about the experience of the guy who wasted $20 on a performer who was unwilling to flex and spent 5 minutes just typing reeeaaallly slowly, and I want to know whether there’ll be any benefit in spending an extra $3 per minute on going into fantasy. None of this is possible on the HBC site – the only way I can get this sort of feedback is by going to someone else’s forum.

You say that you’ll take away the privilege if a model abuses it. Please let us know if this ever happens, because I have my doubts. What defines abuse of the system? In my mind, camping in premium is just that.

I’ve spent many thousands of dollars on this site over the last 10 years, and I pride myself on being polite and respectful to the performers. Per minute, HBC is the most expensive thing I do; I’ve chartered planes at lower rates. I signed up to the forum just to write this long, tedious screed because I think it’s time that the wishes of people like me were taken into consideration.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Feb 15th, 2017 at 6:43pm
What a tepid "rant"...more like a post with a couple of thoughtful suggestions

Can you be more specific about your feedback request?  It makes sense to allow only paying customers for a model to judge her (to me), because otherwise it would be easy to sabotage/spam any ratings or feedback. 

The ignore thing...you basically want to let the models know why you are mad at them or don't like them?  That seems kinda mean. 




Maric wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 4:07pm:
/rant on

There is a feature i would like just for the heck of it.

A feedback like feature besides reviews, that everyone leaves with 5 stars after minutes of premium time.

An ignore feature for us, where the model sees who is ignoring her, and we can leave a reason why. She won't appear on our feed at who's online with ignore.

It's not necessary or anything, but some of them are really worth the ignore feature.

-.-

/rant off

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Feb 15th, 2017 at 6:48pm
Yes, look in the site info button for some further explanation...

*Waiting* in premium or fantasy means they don't have a customer and are choosing to sit in that room and wait for a customer.  If it says "join premium" or "join fantasy" that means they already have at least one customer in the room with them and are in progress on a show.  When "waiting", customers must go in as full price since there's no show going on, no chat happening to go in and observe. 





herbicepsbiggestfan wrote on Feb 14th, 2017 at 11:58am:
Did you add  any new things on the site; For example, i see ''waiting premium ''. So this means that noone is one the chat, and they wait for someone  to visit her , right; And when it is saying ''join premium'' does that mean, that i can join the chat as voeyer and there is a member on the site, and they arent alone, as they use to pretend to be;

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Feb 15th, 2017 at 7:06pm
This was a really great post and I really appreciate the perspective.  Its valuable.

On the new site, my thought was the same.  Make them all do free, better for customers and my thought was models will in the long run make more money, recruiting new customers.  I ran into some problems with veteran performers who were accustomed to doing it the old way.  I soon realized that some models do shows in the shower or multi-girl shows or even adult shows with a partner and wanted the option to stay in those cases.  Still others, wanted to be able to escape particularly nasty trolls or particularly annoying customers who wait for them in the free room, at their own discretion.  And others just thought they made more money the other way.  A few models didn't want to go on at all unless they could do it the old way.

I had a lot of problems with the old way, and I'm glad we were able to do a 2-month experiment on the new site with making all the models go to free.  Despite the friction, a lot of the models realized they do as well or better going in the free room.  Some don't think they did, and we get to find out now.  When I hand out the privilege to a model now, I can tell them hey you were making $30/hr from Dec 15-Feb15 without waiting in the paid rooms.  In a month, I can go back and tell them hey now you're making $20/hr....so you might want to stop doing that.

What I found out was some of the more experienced models really get tired of the every day of free chat and either need breaks or just have decided they'd rather make less but work less hard.  And for the models that have been with us for years doing a great job, I'm willing to trust them to make their own decisions.

On the old site, we had too many models doing this and doing it all the time.  We won't allow that on the new site.  All new models won't have this option, so you'll have plenty of time to get to know and get familiar with just about every new model on the site until they earn the right to have this option.

And then, what I'm already seeing is that certain models who used to never go free have been given the option and are still often choosing to go free to look for customers rather than wait.  And that's probably good business for them and its great for our customers. 

Having it be their choice and not something they are faced to do means they'll have a better attitude and understanding as they chat and interact with our membership base.  And that's good for everybody.

There's one more thing...on the new site, you get the chance to message any model asking her for a current picture.  If you don't want to spend money on somebody out of shape, you now have more ways to communicate with them to find this info out.  And if they won't do that or decide to always "wait", then you get to vote with your wallet or email them and explain to them why you think they are making a mistake.  If you're a spender and a VIP on the site, you get 15 of these messages for free.

Because you now get to see if the models are waiting, there will be less uncertainty about the strategy these models are taking and you will get to make your decisions on who to spend money on with more information at your fingertips. 

The site is still new and we are still working out the kinks and layering in more ideas based on the feedback we get.  But models and their willingness to put in hours are a huge part of the equation.  For sure, they felt like we took away something basic from them. And we did...we are bringing it back in a way that's compromised, and I think logical.  Its only for the models that are good actors and have earned it.  And we will be actively coaching them to make good decisions based on their earnings. 

So even thought we've given this ability to several dozen of the models already, we have noticed that many of them are still going to free...these are ones that did not use to at all and a few that were angry about the change.  So that's really good progress.  Now that they are choosing it, they feel good about it and are owning that decision.

Rewarding veteran models along with increased compensation/commission as they earn more on the site, gives your favorite models an incentive to buy in and stay on the site for longer stretches of time...and feeling good about their importance to the site and their accomplishments being recognized. 



Funicular wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 11:41am:
Waiting for premium. Wow, that didn’t take long. Why does the balance have to be so heavily weighted towards the models rather than the customers? Is it so much to ask to be able to make some sort of informed choice about who we spend our money (in exorbitant amounts) on? I was so excited about the new site, not because of the fan clubs, the new credits system or any of the other “features” that could at best be described as gloss if they even worked, but for the simple reason that it finally meant an end to spending $3-5 a time just to see what shape a model was in. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve had to spend money to find that, sure enough, those profile photos are indeed more than 10 years old, or worse that the model isn’t even there at the computer.

I know exactly who you mean when you say there are models who used to log in daily but don’t do so any more because they have to stay in free chat with the proles. Over the years I’ve probably spent $30 on the privilege of looking at their empty chairs. Let them leave, I say.

And it’s not like there’s any alternative way to make an informed choice. There’s no way to order profile pictures by date, there’s no policy, or even a recommendation, that models should post a recent pic, and the review system is an absolute joke. It’s no help at all to read a series of 5-star ratings only from people who have just spent $100 on a one-to-one session. If I’m willing to spend that money on someone, of course I’m a fan and of course I’m going to give her 5 stars – that is if I’m quick enough to do so in the 10 seconds before the window disappears. I don’t want to read comments from other obsessed schmoes like me, I want to hear about the experience of the guy who wasted $20 on a performer who was unwilling to flex and spent 5 minutes just typing reeeaaallly slowly, and I want to know whether there’ll be any benefit in spending an extra $3 per minute on going into fantasy. None of this is possible on the HBC site – the only way I can get this sort of feedback is by going to someone else’s forum.

You say that you’ll take away the privilege if a model abuses it. Please let us know if this ever happens, because I have my doubts. What defines abuse of the system? In my mind, camping in premium is just that.

I’ve spent many thousands of dollars on this site over the last 10 years, and I pride myself on being polite and respectful to the performers. Per minute, HBC is the most expensive thing I do; I’ve chartered planes at lower rates. I signed up to the forum just to write this long, tedious screed because I think it’s time that the wishes of people like me were taken into consideration.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Funicular on Feb 15th, 2017 at 8:21pm
There's nothing like a reasonable, calm and prompt response for taking the wind out of one's rant sails! Thank you for taking the time to write it. I may not like the decision but at least it was thought through.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by mysod on Feb 15th, 2017 at 8:24pm
Hi,
I don't know if this is the right place - but since yesterday the site is buggy (at least for me)
Some chat rooms I just never finish the connection.
I tried both FF and Explorer and both fail at the same chats.
Does anyone else have this problem ?
Hope this get resolved soon. :(

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Feb 15th, 2017 at 9:31pm

Funicular wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
There's nothing like a reasonable, calm and prompt response for taking the wind out of one's rant sails! Thank you for taking the time to write it. I may not like the decision but at least it was thought through.


Thanks for that, I wrote that reply a bit sloppily...but I'm glad that came through.  The most important thing to keep in mind as a model and as a customer, is that the relationship isn't a zero-sum game and purely for one side's pleasure and/or profit. 

The good news is that I've had both models and customers both accuse me only caring about the other group over the last couple of months...so you aren't alone in your initial reaction.  I totally understand and I want you to feel like the site is looking out for your interests.  Please feel free to email me privately about any other thoughts or concerns you have, and if they are extensive, I'm always open to a phone call. 

eckstut@aol.com is best to reach me personally

--Mike

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Feb 15th, 2017 at 9:33pm

mysod wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 8:24pm:
Hi,
I don't know if this is the right place - but since yesterday the site is buggy (at least for me)
Some chat rooms I just never finish the connection.
I tried both FF and Explorer and both fail at the same chats.
Does anyone else have this problem ?
Hope this get resolved soon. :(


Got your email and we're aware of the issue...should be fixed soon...thanks for your patience

in the meantime, try clearing your browser's cache and/or temporary files...or just restarting your computer...we suggest chrome for pcs and safari for macs just fyi as well

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by mysod on Feb 15th, 2017 at 10:36pm
Hi,
After the reset it seems to work so thank you for the fix.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by daviedee on Feb 15th, 2017 at 10:40pm
Mike , Any chance you could lengthen the time for the review the model after the show ? Its just a rush to do the stars and type . Plus me having all thumbs and no fingers type typing.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Feb 15th, 2017 at 11:17pm

daviedee wrote on Feb 15th, 2017 at 10:40pm:
Mike , Any chance you could lengthen the time for the review the model after the show ? Its just a rush to do the stars and type . Plus me having all thumbs and no fingers type typing.


That's a good note.  We should have a new workflow for that in place in the next couple months...not the first priority, but aware its not ideally set up the way it is

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Feb 16th, 2017 at 12:15pm
i have one suggestion to make. Put limits. For example since all the models or the majority of them, can wait on premium/fantasy with no other member with them , put a limit on them. Let them having this ability at maximum 5 times per day, and the whole other time during the same day, they dont have this ablity and are on free chat .

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by labtecfriend on Feb 17th, 2017 at 5:45am
Actually, am sorry to say, there is not alot of "improvements" to the HBC. I have patience, and, the ladies are wondering why, I (speak only for myself) , do not visit more! I hope that more changes are coming,,changes  take time!!


Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by sixpack09 on Feb 18th, 2017 at 6:29pm
Hi Mike,

The site has been very spotty the last two days I have to keep refreshing it because it says no member online when there really are about 5 to 10 online

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by hellolo on Feb 18th, 2017 at 10:22pm
It would be nice to know if the model is really on HD or if it is just some kind of fake hd (resized SD)

I also hope there is a system that privileges resources on the server for paying members and limits resources to girls that stay in premium without viewer until there is a viewer....

For those performers staying in premium it would be more than correct not considering sessions during less than 5 or 10 seconds, in case the client leaves immediately for cause of an performer in paing who is nt present or not looking the way expected.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Feb 19th, 2017 at 10:13am
Until this moment, this issue still happens. Its really tiring to refresh every 20-30 seconds to see who really is online. It used to happen before too, but that was happening once in a hour, and after that, it was showing who really was online, all the models and not only 2-4.

sixpack09 wrote on Feb 18th, 2017 at 6:29pm:
Hi Mike,

The site has been very spotty the last two days I have to keep refreshing it because it says no member online when there really are about 5 to 10 online


Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by durman_ on Mar 5th, 2017 at 9:19am
I should stress on the fact, that it's very hard to rate a model, as the review window closes very fast as you leave the chatroom. For someone new as myself, it's disappointing a bit as it was unexpected.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Mar 5th, 2017 at 9:12pm

durman_ wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 9:19am:
I should stress on the fact, that it's very hard to rate a model, as the review window closes very fast as you leave the chatroom. For someone new as myself, it's disappointing a bit as it was unexpected.


Aware of the issue and should have a permanent fix for this next month...some other more pressing issues ahead of t in line

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by muscleluvr on Mar 5th, 2017 at 9:24pm
Is there any way of turning the sound effects off?

The loud "frrring!" whenever a model comes online gets old fast, so much that I always put my volume on mute now, and there's really no need for a jolly little piano tune to play every time *I* type a comment in chat, especially when I've got the volume on full trying to hear what the model is saying!  :o

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Mar 5th, 2017 at 10:04pm
Yes  go to your dashboard and sound settings allows you to customize. 

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by durman_ on Mar 6th, 2017 at 4:12am

Mike wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 9:12pm:
Aware of the issue and should have a permanent fix for this next month...some other more pressing issues ahead of t in line

That's great news anyway. Thank you for response.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by muscleluvr on Mar 7th, 2017 at 4:38pm

Mike wrote on Mar 5th, 2017 at 10:04pm:
Yes  go to your dashboard and sound settings allows you to customize. 

That's great thanks Mike :)

Title: Order of Online Models
Post by hellolo on Mar 11th, 2017 at 9:44am
It might useful to fix the order of the active girls or regroup them
I would suggest
1 - Free Chat
2 - Waiting in Premium
3 - In premium or fantasy
4 - 1on1

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by kosh on Mar 19th, 2017 at 1:18am
The webcam site is definitely much better now. Thanks !

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by aggieman on May 18th, 2017 at 12:55am
I've noticed lately a lot more instances of flakiness in the site.  For example, I just chatted with Mystique, and I entered her room, but it didn't show me as present!  So I was being charged, and trying to talk to her, but she didn't even know I was there.  it did this to me THREE TIMES IN A  ROW.  On the fourth try, she saw me.
I've had countless cases where I try to go into premium, but it hangs up for a ridiculously long time before the screen actually connects and shows me the performer (if EVER) ... again, all the while I am being charged.
General sluggishness of the interface is a major problem.  The position of the performers in the list is constantly changing as performers go in and out, so whoever you THINK you just clicked on may be someone else.  No offense, I like what you do (as evidenced by how long I've been coming!) ... But the system is about as durable and rugged as a soufflé.  Was there some change the last few weeks that tried to make something better, but broke it instead? :(

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on May 18th, 2017 at 6:39am
funny, we've noticed that the site has become a lot more stable in the last week or so, but there are still individuals with issues

please email us at help@herbicepscam.com and we will try to help you trouble shoot your problems....we have 5-6 suggestions and usually one of them does the trick

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Jun 5th, 2017 at 8:34pm
Suggestions-opinios
Has anyone else send an email to a model about a request he has  and not get an answer;; I dont know why but i am sending emails to some girls on the site wih a request i have  and they never answer. I dont know why,  but is it so difficult for them to answer with just a simple ''yes'' or no'' to the emails that they accept;; ; We spent some credits to send them an email  and what we get; nothing; they dont even answer.   I think  you should give them some 'rules'' which one of them it must says they must be kind and answer to the emails as the majority of us are kind and ready to spend many dollars on them. They must respect us as much as we do. 
2. Put some limits on the times that they can pretend to be in premium/fantasy. Some models have never ever been  in free chat since december . Put them a limit of times for example 3 or 5 per day in which they can pretend to be in these chats and the other time they cant, so they must be in free chat too.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Top_Dogg on Jun 19th, 2017 at 6:57am
I hope this is the right place to put it...but there has GOT to be some form of limitations as to how many times a person goes to 1-on-1 chat with a model and/or how LONG they have a 1-on-1 chat with a model without limiting the potential for models to make money. To me, it's selfish to the model of missing out on other people who want to pay their money to see them. I don't know if some customers do it because they actually like them or they are being trolls and want to make sure no one else gives them their business. It's annoying an a turnoff, and I KNOW the system can be better so it's a win-win for everyone, except the obvious spammers, and they know who they are.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jun 22nd, 2017 at 3:07am
Of all the ideas I've heard for the new site, putting a limit on how long or how much a customer should be able to take a model private is certainly amongst the worst.  Every model has some downtime, it probably only seems like they are always in one on one.  Nobody is rich enough or bored enough to keep them occupied perpetually.

Regarding, messages being read, the system refunds the charge if your message goes unread after 2 weeks.  But if a model reads your message and chooses not to reply, then that's her prerogative. 

Both of your suggestions are based on a certain illogical way of thinking that would be cured if you took a little more time to think through the consequences of your suggestion if carried out or enforced.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Top_Dogg on Jun 23rd, 2017 at 5:28am

Mike wrote on Jun 22nd, 2017 at 3:07am:
Of all the ideas I've heard for the new site, putting a limit on how long or how much a customer should be able to take a model private is certainly amongst the worst.  Every model has some downtime, it probably only seems like they are always in one on one.  Nobody is rich enough or bored enough to keep them occupied perpetually.

Regarding, messages being read, the system refunds the charge if your message goes unread after 2 weeks.  But if a model reads your message and chooses not to reply, then that's her prerogative. 

Both of your suggestions are based on a certain illogical way of thinking that would be cured if you took a little more time to think through the consequences of your suggestion if carried out or enforced.


"Nobody is rich enough or bored enough to keep them occupied perpetually."?!?! You'd be surprised.

And actually, that's NOT illogical thinking of my suggestion. Yes, the number one reason for any model to do webcamming is to make as much money as possible. BUT when one or two take up the time of the model for a very lengthy amount of time and others can't pitch in their money as well, it becomes a problem. I speak for the guy that posted before me, but I stand by my own statement.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by aggieman on Jun 25th, 2017 at 10:21pm
Gonna side with Mike on this one - there is absolutely no reason to restrict a model's ability to remain in 1-on-1 as long as she wants, with whomever can afford it.  (And I say this as someone who CAN'T afford 1-on-1.)

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by nyclwyr338 on Jun 26th, 2017 at 4:24am
Count me with Mike on this one too. Yes it's annoying when you have the money and time to check out a particular woman but don't get a chance because someone takes time in 1 on 1 or someone beats me to taking the woman private. Lots of things in life are annoying. That's life.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by fbbfan4life on Jun 27th, 2017 at 8:53am
Maybe there is a solution that could satisfy everyone.

How about a voyeur option for 1-1 ? This way only the guy who took the performer in 1-1 could interact with her (while in fantasy or premium many can) and a voyeur could at least see her favourite model without chatting or interacting.

If the concern is the privacy then there could be an option to disable audio for voyeurs, so only the guy in 1-1 could hear and talk to the performer.

This "1-1 voyeur mode" would also mean more money for the model (and HBC aswell), and nobody would complain if it was more expensive than the other voyeur modes.

Lastly if the concern is what the performer really wants to do, then the performer herself could decide if allowing this feature or not (somthing similar to what happens in other cam sites, where there are "private" and "true-private" modes).

Hope this suggestion helps.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:18pm
A 1-on-1 show is a guarantee of privacy for all parties, without interruption or sharing the view with anybody else.  Models may feel inhibited if voyeurs could watch.

The 1-on-1 chat is very popular on the site for both models and customers.  Its crucial.  Messing with the integrity of that is not something I would ever consider doing.

The average 1-on-1 session lasts 6-7 minutes, by the way.

Imagine I put a limit on how much 1-on-1 a model and a customer could do in a day on the site.  As the time was ending and the desire to continue still existed, they would find a way around the limitation either through our site or outside our site.  The rule would be ineffectual and have unintended consequences.  Really, any rule that stifles supply and demand leads to black market solutions.

But besides the impracticability of regulating long 1-on-1 sessions out, its exactly the opposite of what we want to offer and what both the customer and models most badly want.  If a show is going long in 1-on-1, that means the interaction is working for both the user and the model.  That's a triumphant success for all parties.  We would never even consider limiting these successful interactions in any way, shape or form. 


Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Top_Dogg on Jun 28th, 2017 at 4:16am
I get what everyone is saying, but I respectfully must disagree and personally think there can be a solution that could still bring in money to the models as well as expand their fanbase, which in turn expands their opportunities at making money. I'm not smart enough to come up with a suggestion, but I know there's one out there.

And the sessions have lasted on average from 40 minutes to an hour (or more) and this is coming from someone who has been on here for a long time.

I'm grateful that this exist and I thank you for bringing HerBicepsCam to life, but I feel it can be better on this matter. I'm sorry.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by fbbfan4life on Jun 28th, 2017 at 11:30am

Mike wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:18pm:
A 1-on-1 show is a guarantee of privacy for all parties, without interruption or sharing the view with anybody else.  Models may feel inhibited if voyeurs could
watch.

The 1-on-1 chat is very popular on the site for both models and customers.  Its crucial.  Messing with the integrity of that is not something I would ever consider doing.

The average 1-on-1 session lasts 6-7 minutes, by the way.

Imagine I put a limit on how much 1-on-1 a model and a customer could do in a day on the site.  As the time was ending and the desire to continue still existed, they would find a way around the limitation either through our site or outside our site.  The rule would be ineffectual and have unintended consequences.  Really, any rule that stifles supply and demand leads to black market solutions.

But besides the impracticability of regulating long 1-on-1 sessions out, its exactly the opposite of what we want to offer and what both the customer and models most badly want.  If a show is going long in 1-on-1, that means the interaction is working for both the user and the model.  That's a triumphant success for all parties.  We would never even consider limiting these successful interactions in any way, shape or form. 



That is not what I was suggesting, Mike.

I was suggesting to ADD an option/mode that is currently missing (available in other cam sites with the names of "private" and "true private").

So you could split the current 1-1 mode in two modes: 1-1(with voyeur option) and "true 1-1" (without voyeur). In both cases the 1-1 would mean that the model chats and talks with just one guy; if she doesnt care to be seen by voyeurs she could make much more money with the 1-1-with voyeur option ; if she is uncomfortable with that she could always choose "true 1-1" (no voyeurs), which is the current 1-1 mode on HBC.

So, if my suggestiong was put in place, no model would be forced to act differently than they do today, it would just give them more options, probably more money and also would partially solve the problem discussed by top_dogg, without forcing a time limit.

It would just be a win-win, unless you think the models are not capable of deciding by themselves what is best for them.

This is just to clarify what my suggestion was, because I wasnt able to explain myself  in my previous post.

Cheers.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Jun 28th, 2017 at 9:40pm
I see, that's a smart suggestion...but I think it would add a layer of complexity that would be a little bit difficult for people to understand....and mainly, I don't think its really a problem we want to solve...for various business reasons.

Models are already confused when they log in by the various levels of chat.  We already have 5 different kinds of pay chats (including premium voyeur and fantasy voyeur, plus free chat.  It can be overwhelming for newbies.  I already fear it may be too complicated, and so I'm not too interested in making it more complex.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by anon_imgone on Jul 1st, 2017 at 6:59pm
One thing I didn't mind was when all the models were forced to be in free chat instead of sitting in premium all day.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Top_Dogg on Aug 20th, 2017 at 5:52am
This wouldn't be considered a improvement, but more like a marketing suggestion/opportunity. How about doing a Miss HerBicepsCam competition? I don't know how the format would work or the best way to do it, but there would be categories such as Best Biceps, Abs, Overall Arms, Quads, Pec Bounce, Quad Shake, Glute Bounce, etc, with an obvious overall winner. Again, I have no idea how it would work to be honest with you.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Maric on Aug 20th, 2017 at 11:28pm

anon_imgone wrote on Jul 1st, 2017 at 6:59pm:
One thing I didn't mind was when all the models were forced to be in free chat instead of sitting in premium all day.


A lot of them just camp in premium chat all day and expect customers.

The worst however, is with some of them even camping in fantasy.

I mean nice way to extort more money until someone reverts the chat to premium, if fantasy is not their thing.

These options they have baffle me.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Aug 23rd, 2017 at 6:13pm
Dont risk to spend  any of your credits to the models who hide in premium or in fantasy chat the whole day. Take in premium or fantasy or 1-1 only the girls that you see  almost every day in free chat so you can  know what you can expect and if she can gives it to you while you  can ask her in pm. Thats the suggestion.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Aug 23rd, 2017 at 7:53pm
as always, vote with your wallets...you should know that only those performers who have a certain level of seniority with us have this option...which is different than on the old site...so everybody has to "pay their dues" now...and those you see waiting in premium, they mostly have

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by anon_imgone on Aug 24th, 2017 at 12:32am

Mike wrote on Aug 23rd, 2017 at 7:53pm:
as always, vote with your wallets...you should know that only those performers who have a certain level of seniority with us have this option...which is different than on the old site...so everybody has to "pay their dues" now...and those you see waiting in premium, they mostly have


Out of curiosity, what reasons do cam models give for wanting to be able to do this?

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Aug 24th, 2017 at 6:03pm
Many experience what we might call free chat fatigue....they get tired of talking to many of the same guys who always just hang out in free...even if they make less money, they prefer less money than having to work the free room...some believe they'll make more money this way, but they are usually wrong...but not always

or some feel like they're better able to stay anonymous this way...some are in school and study or accomplish other work while they wait for customers

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Aug 30th, 2017 at 11:34pm
Hey is there any way you can reduce the  minimum time we have to spent with a model in order to leave a comment from 5 minutes to 2 minutes; I will explain why i am saying this.
A lot of men do a private show with a model , but if they are not satisfied with what they see they leave the room and noone learns what happened to him or what he didht like  since there is no logic for him to stay to a model room for 5 minutes in order to leave a helpful review for us . So if  he isht seeing what he wants or has asked the model to do why should he stay in the model room for 5 minutes so he can leave a comment. Thats a huge disadvantage for us and that explains why the 9/10 reviews you will see in a model profile are good reviews and rarely you will find one bad review. I think we all agree that a model should start performing what she has been asked from the first minute  thats why we are in a private chat

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by xhero on Aug 31st, 2017 at 11:29am
things are pretty simple.
girls in chat are money eaters. end of story.
some have fun, some will entertain you, some will be and actually are just assholes.
but that's the story, they don't give a damn about you (even if they will let you think that - otherwise you won't get back - most probably they won't even consider you more than just a weirdo).
apologize for the straight talk, but that's the only truth.
All the rest is bullshit.
I totally agree with the fact that when you enter a pay chat action HAVE to start in a flash.
No other wait. They are not there to talk, they are there to show, right? so, pay chat = action.
by the way, I am no more doing HBC for a lot of time. It's just so downgrading for girls and even more for you all guys, everyone here is earning money for your weakness.
like it or not, that's it.
;)

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Aug 31st, 2017 at 1:20pm
I agree with you .They earn a lot of money thats for sure. We are very stupid sometimes. For example when  a new model  comes on the site we get crazy and get them in 1-1 from the first second for about an hour and we are competing who will take them first in premium and who will take them longer.. Sometimes i wonder what the girls are calling us . Stupid, asscholes,  suckers or something else. There are girls that earn about 200 dollars  and others that earn  1000 dollars  or more every day so about 4.000 up to 20.000 dollars every month. These girls dont have to work or doing anything else in their life  then  but only travelling in the world and buy expensive things or a villa. Thats why we must have a limit to the money we spent  , otherwise we will  end up in a very bad position.. Its a fact that all the girls want us money, some have a better behaviour and respect us other not but watch us as wallets. Thats why i not do a lot private shows too, but only one or two per month and with selected women.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Aug 31st, 2017 at 6:29pm

herbicepsbiggestfan wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 11:34pm:
Hey is there any way you can reduce the  minimum time we have to spent with a model in order to leave a comment from 5 minutes to 2 minutes; I will explain why i am saying this.
A lot of men do a private show with a model , but if they are not satisfied with what they see they leave the room and noone learns what happened to him or what he didht like  since there is no logic for him to stay to a model room for 5 minutes in order to leave a helpful review for us . So if  he isht seeing what he wants or has asked the model to do why should he stay in the model room for 5 minutes so he can leave a comment. Thats a huge disadvantage for us and that explains why the 9/10 reviews you will see in a model profile are good reviews and rarely you will find one bad review. I think we all agree that a model should start performing what she has been asked from the first minute  thats why we are in a private chat


Almost all of our models do a really fantastic job, which is the main reason why most of the reviews are really great.  And I think its fair to ask customers to spend 5 minutes, so we know the review is a fair one.  2 minutes just isn't long enough to really give the model a good chance to connect with the customer. 

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Aug 31st, 2017 at 6:35pm

xhero wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 11:29am:
things are pretty simple.
girls in chat are money eaters. end of story.
some have fun, some will entertain you, some will be and actually are just assholes.
but that's the story, they don't give a damn about you (even if they will let you think that - otherwise you won't get back - most probably they won't even consider you more than just a weirdo).
apologize for the straight talk, but that's the only truth.
All the rest is bullshit.
I totally agree with the fact that when you enter a pay chat action HAVE to start in a flash.
No other wait. They are not there to talk, they are there to show, right? so, pay chat = action.
by the way, I am no more doing HBC for a lot of time. It's just so downgrading for girls and even more for you all guys, everyone here is earning money for your weakness.
like it or not, that's it.
;)


Most of our best customers actually love talking to the models and getting to know the models, and maybe more importantly having the models get to know them.  If you view it as pay-per-view video, its not going to be a great proposition.  What's different about camming is the chance to really connect with the models and make it a personal experience.  To do that, you need to talk to them and let them know about you.

Our cam models are mostly very very good at what they do.  They're great posers, good at talking to the customers, and if you are a good customer, they want to know what you are into so they can explore that with you. 

xhero, you pretty clearly have a bad attitude towards the women and my guess is they pick up on that...you sound like an asshole lol...c'mon, man.  These women train hard, and do their best.  They put up with a lot and yes, they are on the site to make money OF COURSE.  But they're people, they have feelings, and your milage will vary depending on how you, the customer, present yourself.  Be original, be fun, be yourself, but please don't be angry and bitter...or you might find that reflected back towards you, because they're just human.


Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Aug 31st, 2017 at 6:39pm

herbicepsbiggestfan wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 1:20pm:
I agree with you .They earn a lot of money thats for sure. We are very stupid sometimes. For example when  a new model  comes on the site we get crazy and get them in 1-1 from the first second for about an hour and we are competing who will take them first in premium and who will take them longer.. Sometimes i wonder what the girls are calling us . Stupid, asscholes,  suckers or something else. There are girls that earn about 200 dollars  and others that earn  1000 dollars  or more every day so about 4.000 up to 20.000 dollars every month. These girls dont have to work or doing anything else in their life  then  but only travelling in the world and buy expensive things or a villa. Thats why we must have a limit to the money we spent  , otherwise we will  end up in a very bad position.. Its a fact that all the girls want us money, some have a better behaviour and respect us other not but watch us as wallets. Thats why i not do a lot private shows too, but only one or two per month and with selected women.


You have no idea what they make, there are zero performers on HerBiceps that make as much as 1000 dollars a day.  There's nobody in the history of our website that has made 20k per month as a performer.

Many of the women make 10-50 dollars an hour or so, and that's not awful, but they aren't going around the world.  They are working the site, to make a living, pay their bills, support their competitions, feeding their children, supporting their family, etc etc.

You need to check yourself, man.   

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Aug 31st, 2017 at 6:43pm
And the new women are usually quite nervous and sometimes even scared.  Most of our customers treat the performers really well, and understand that they are precious and valuable, that they are beautiful women who are putting themselves out there to make some extra money for the enjoyment of muscle fans.

Its a two-way street.  Both customers and models are putting themselves out there.  The best customers and the best models don't have expectations of the other except mutual respect and both are looking to have as much fun with the interaction as possible.

You guys sound angry and upset about the women, and that's not healthy.  If its too expensive for you, please enjoy the videos and membership area.  The cam site isn't for everybody.  Its expensive, but it has to be expensive in order for the economics to work.  If you don't like it, move on...but don't vilify the beautiful women who work on the site to make yourselves feel better.  That's not an attitude that's going to help yourselves as you go through life.


herbicepsbiggestfan wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 1:20pm:
I agree with you .They earn a lot of money thats for sure. We are very stupid sometimes. For example when  a new model  comes on the site we get crazy and get them in 1-1 from the first second for about an hour and we are competing who will take them first in premium and who will take them longer.. Sometimes i wonder what the girls are calling us . Stupid, asscholes,  suckers or something else. There are girls that earn about 200 dollars  and others that earn  1000 dollars  or more every day so about 4.000 up to 20.000 dollars every month. These girls dont have to work or doing anything else in their life  then  but only travelling in the world and buy expensive things or a villa. Thats why we must have a limit to the money we spent  , otherwise we will  end up in a very bad position.. Its a fact that all the girls want us money, some have a better behaviour and respect us other not but watch us as wallets. Thats why i not do a lot private shows too, but only one or two per month and with selected women.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Aug 31st, 2017 at 7:12pm
I respect all the work you have done so far and the improvements you are doing every day. I just  say that i dont respect all the models but only some of them because i see that some of them see us only as wallets  and  they forget that we are human beings too.  As for myself i only made a review  about what i have seen. I am not new to the site.  I will repeat it again because you misunderstood me. I am not saying that all the models are the same. Of course there are great models who deserve any money we can spend with them  and they  see us as people too, but believe it or not there are many women too that see us only as wallets. I see that you want to protect your models and say only good things which is very logic, i would do the same if i were you too, but you must admit that there are 2 kinds of woman in the site. So to sum up i am saying that we must all spend our money to models who really deserve our money and not spend our credits only to the famous girls or the girls that have the most reviews as we usually do. There are great girls that have much less reviews and pvt shows.
I respect your answers but i just dont agree with everything you say. For example i think you protect your girls by not giving us the opportunity to leave a comment after we have spent 2 or 3 minutes with them and we didhnt like what we saw and leave   and because the time you give us(not you , your site or someone else i dont know) to leave a comment  is awful  .

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by spy on Sep 1st, 2017 at 12:10am
:(

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by xhero on Sep 1st, 2017 at 9:44am

Mike wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 6:35pm:

xhero wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 11:29am:
things are pretty simple.
girls in chat are money eaters. end of story.
some have fun, some will entertain you, some will be and actually are just assholes.
but that's the story, they don't give a damn about you (even if they will let you think that - otherwise you won't get back - most probably they won't even consider you more than just a weirdo).
apologize for the straight talk, but that's the only truth.
All the rest is bullshit.
I totally agree with the fact that when you enter a pay chat action HAVE to start in a flash.
No other wait. They are not there to talk, they are there to show, right? so, pay chat = action.
by the way, I am no more doing HBC for a lot of time. It's just so downgrading for girls and even more for you all guys, everyone here is earning money for your weakness.
like it or not, that's it.
;)



xhero, you pretty clearly have a bad attitude towards the women and my guess is they pick up on that...you sound like an asshole lol...c'mon, man.  These women train hard, and do their best.  They put up with a lot and yes, they are on the site to make money OF COURSE.  But they're people, they have feelings, and your milage will vary depending on how you, the customer, present yourself.  Be original, be fun, be yourself, but please don't be angry and bitter...or you might find that reflected back towards you, because they're just human.


dear Mike,
you don't know anything about me, and calling me an asshole qualify yourself, let me tell you like we were old friends sharing a beer together, (as a member since the very beginning) crappity smack yourself man, but with a smile  ;)

I have been in chat few times and I always had a good experience, most of the time I didn't even asked for a specific show, things just happened naturally, of course you need to get connected with girls and be respectful, no rudeness allowed, that's for sure, but it's gotta be mutual right?

I could tell you I am even friend with some of them for other reasons outside the chat and even before you featured them on your website but that's another story, just to say I know pretty well they all have a story behind and are human, I know the struggle and their hard work in gym and the whole lifestyle they need to follow. I know all that stuff and I respect this. Pretty much.

What's sounding weird, in all of that, is that most guys here are goin in chat to satisfy their own  fantasies, most of the times erotic fantasies -and it's more than legit if you ask me -, and girls, be honest, are there to earn few bucks and they well know they are there to tease right? Don't make it appear like Alice in Wonderland when it's nothing more than just business. Cannot blame you for this, when supply and demand meet you are in the right position.

Then, indeed, some girls are awesome and sweet, some are not. They all have the right to decide how far to go with a show, but they should be honest with it and don't play too much with the viewer weakness, and too many girls take advantage of this. That's why I told "pay=action" it's fair play.

But once again, it's just business, don't let it appear like Alice in Wonderland, be honest with it. Thanks ;)

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by xhero on Sep 1st, 2017 at 9:45am

spy wrote on Sep 1st, 2017 at 12:10am:
@Mike

I think the trouble is you still sell this as cam site for muscle fans, but it has turned to a Porn/Escort Camsite with muscular woman, lots of your actual Performers come from the Sexcam Industry.
The old site started with girls from Herbiceps.com, who often were champs, they have all gone and have been replaced with girls who start doing things with their intim bodyparts even if you just ask for muscles.... Customers who like that will ask the same to any new performer.
So perhaps a solution would be to add again a separate camsite with the very old content just muscles and no sex or full nude.


that is almost true. Some good girls and fitness champs are still there, but sadly too many girls are coming from other porno sites and things are going out of control. that's what I was talking about.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Sep 1st, 2017 at 7:31pm
This is really inaccurate, man....sure, a lot of the women are willing to give sexy shows, and adult shows...but the amount of muscle on the site is pretty intense these days.

Right this second, we have 16 models on...

Biceps_Ella --- physique/bodybuilding competitor
MMMuscle -- big physique competitor
Miss_Lisa -- experienced female bodybuilder
Buff_Jill -- pretty big physique competitor
Anna M Strong & Hot Chili -- both massive girls
AtomicBlonde -- plays towards adult, but she's a pro physique competitor who weighs over 160 lbs in the offseason
Kinder Surprise and muscles constellation -- both pretty sizable and ripped muscle girls
Snow_Queen and The_Bomb both very very muscular

Katrina, Lani_Heart and Angel_Devil are the only curvy less muscular girls, but Lani has competed in figure and the others I don't know their comp history offhand, but both can flex and enjoy doing it too

that's a pretty impressive ratio of real muscle girls vs "porn strs" or "adult webcam models"





spy wrote on Sep 1st, 2017 at 12:10am:
@Mike

I think the trouble is you still sell this as cam site for muscle fans, but it has turned to a Porn/Escort Camsite with muscular woman, lots of your actual Performers come from the Sexcam Industry.
The old site started with girls from Herbiceps.com, who often were champs, they have all gone and have been replaced with girls who start doing things with their intimate bodyparts even if you just ask for muscles.... Customers who like that will ask the same to any new performer.
So perhaps a solution would be to add again a separate camsite with the very old content just muscles and no sex or full nude.


Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Sep 1st, 2017 at 7:38pm
First, I never called you an asshole, not even with a smile.  I'm sure you are respectful with the women, but painting with a broad brush isn't right here in any of the ways some of you guys are painting.  Most of our models are exceptional women, but of course not everybody is.  I've shot with them for many years and I know better than anybody, that they all have bad days and they're just people.  Sometimes they aren't cool.  I know that.  Some of the girls are more into adult than muscle, I know that too.  But they're allowed to be themselves, or play a role...they can do whatever they like and you guys can make a decision whether you're into it. And the girls get to decide if they're into chatting with you as well. 

If you re-read my posts, I think you'll see I'm being honest...and trying to present another side to your views.  And I'm suggesting certain kinds of attitudes aren't going to be productive with a lot of the women.

If you don't like somebody, don't go in their room.  We have plenty of all types of muscular women and we're actively recruiting more...


xhero wrote on Sep 1st, 2017 at 9:45am:

spy wrote on Sep 1st, 2017 at 12:10am:
@Mike

I think the trouble is you still sell this as cam site for muscle fans, but it has turned to a Porn/Escort Camsite with muscular woman, lots of your actual Performers come from the Sexcam Industry.
The old site started with girls from Herbiceps.com, who often were champs, they have all gone and have been replaced with girls who start doing things with their intim bodyparts even if you just ask for muscles.... Customers who like that will ask the same to any new performer.
So perhaps a solution would be to add again a separate camsite with the very old content just muscles and no sex or full nude.


that is almost true. Some good girls and fitness champs are still there, but sadly too many girls are coming from other porno sites and things are going out of control. that's what I was talking about.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by spy on Sep 1st, 2017 at 11:31pm
:)

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by xhero on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 5:20am

Mike wrote on Sep 1st, 2017 at 7:38pm:
First, I never called you an asshole, not even with a smile.  I'm sure you are respectful with the women, but painting with a broad brush isn't right here in any of the ways some of you guys are painting.  Most of our models are exceptional women, but of course not everybody is.  I've shot with them for many years and I know better than anybody, that they all have bad days and they're just people.  Sometimes they aren't cool.  I know that.  Some of the girls are more into adult than muscle, I know that too.  But they're allowed to be themselves, or play a role...they can do whatever they like and you guys can make a decision whether you're into it. And the girls get to decide if they're into chatting with you as well. 

If you re-read my posts, I think you'll see I'm being honest...and trying to present another side to your views.  And I'm suggesting certain kinds of attitudes aren't going to be productive with a lot of the women.


If you don't like somebody, don't go in their room.  We have plenty of all types of muscular women and we're actively recruiting more...
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Mike, I'm pretty sure you know my nickname for long time and you know I watched your back most of the time (even if you surely do not need my help), I'm not someone looking for a fight. Calling me an asshole or telling me I sounded like this doesn't make a big difference, but I'm still gonna take it with a smile.

You didn't get the point, or most probably I didn't explained myself as good as I thought.
I love your website as much as I dislike how HBC has gone too far. I still find the website cool, classy, entertaining, fun and interesting, especially interview. But HBC became something weird, without control and too many girls are ruining something that could have been cool and fun as well (once again, that's my personal feeling). For the records I don't have anything to change about my attitude since I simply do not visit HBC anymore. I luckily don't need it.

My post wasn't directed to you, I can't blame you for earning money with HBC, it's more then legit.
I  was just trying to make some guys opening their eyes, understanding that girls are just interested in earning money, more than getting to really know the viewer. And once again, I  can't blame them. It's more than legit, and honestly, if I was a girl I'm not sure I would feel that interest for someone paying me to show off. But this is just my 2 cents.

I'll never change my mind about what should happen in a pay chat. PAY=ACTION. If girls are not in the mood none is forcing them to be on cam, and if someone is getting rude they can ban you out of the room, right? That would be fair and honest, instead of let the time going on (and the wallet getting empty). When girls decide to become chat hosts they know what they are doing, and they are selling a service, no fairytale please. They can talk and tease in free. Girls are there to earn some money. Fact. Guys must, MUST, consider that girls are human and be respectful ALWAYS, they may have good and bad days... Indeed, it's fine and it's more than right. But girls MUST respect their customers as well (becouse that's what guys are when paying, customers, not friends not even people who's getting to know each other) and DO NOT play with their weakness.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by herbicepsbiggestfan on Sep 8th, 2017 at 7:05pm
Hey i am writing to inform about a problem i have noticed in the site that needs to be solved.
A lot of new models are joining the site. Thats great. But the problem is that they dont know the rules of the site . To be more specific. 1. Some of them dont know what pm is or how they pm(some even think we pm the models).2 Other models dont know what ''tip'' is. I have asked a model if i can tip her to see a muscle flex and she has wrote me that why should i tip her(she thought that i would give her a general tip like in the way of her life ...). 3. Some models dont know the message system. I have seen people write to models if they can email them for a pvt request they have and they answer they dont give their personal emails so they might not know that we can email them in the site. To sum up before a new model join the chat , please expalin them  exactly in every detail the rules- things  of the site or  do some tests live  like  the ones  i have seen sometimes you do. :) Of course they need their time to adapt to the site , that is more that respected. 

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by xhero on Sep 9th, 2017 at 8:57am

herbicepsbiggestfan wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 7:05pm:
Hey i am writing to inform about a problem i have noticed in the site that needs to be solved.
A lot of new models are joining the site. Thats great. But the problem is that they dont know the rules of the site . To be more specific. 1. Some of them dont know what pm is or how they pm(some even think we pm the models).2 Other models dont know what ''tip'' is. I have asked a model if i can tip her to see a muscle flex and she has wrote me that why should i tip her(she thought that i would give her a general tip like in the way of her life ...). 3. Some models dont know the message system. I have seen people write to models if they can email them for a pvt request they have and they answer they dont give their personal emails so they might not know that we can email them in the site. To sum up before a new model join the chat , please expalin them  exactly in every detail the rules- things  of the site or  do some tests live  like  the ones  i have seen sometimes you do. :) Of course they need their time to adapt to the site , that is more that respected. 


most probably it's just a matter of language, when english is not their primary language...

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by spy on Sep 18th, 2017 at 9:01pm
I miss the "cancel my account" button in the settings

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by durman_ on Sep 23rd, 2017 at 7:25pm
Did something change recently?

I have troubles with video. I see the models online, but if I enter the room I only get "model joining the chat" message all the time. It's not the browser problem.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by aggieman on Sep 27th, 2017 at 4:29am
Mike, I got an email blast from the model MuscleMiztress, but when I tried to respond it says "You can't send private message to MuscleMiztress".  Why is that?  Can a model restrict who can send them messages?  Why would they do that?  I tried to look up her profile to confirm if I was a member, but I can't even find it with the search.  What the heck?

Also, looks like you raised the price of sending messages, if a VIP member uses up their 15 free a month.  Not cool.
(Although I'm happy to have the 15, don't get me wrong).

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Sep 27th, 2017 at 8:28am
Sounds like she blocked you, but obviously that should also preclude you from getting her emails...great bug report, really...but sorry you got blocked.  Another possibility, knowing you, is that she just blocked your home state from seeing her online. Models have various reasons for doing that.

We do give away 15 free messages to users per month...and if you're a VIP, all subsequent messages should be 5 credits...are you saying its charging you 10? or something else? 

the best thing to do with questions like these is to email help@herbicepscam.com...but also I don't mind responding here...but for more personal service, use the email

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Mike on Sep 27th, 2017 at 8:29am
Tre posted our fix-info for what you are experiencing in another thread he just made on this board...it should help if you try out those fixes


durman_ wrote on Sep 23rd, 2017 at 7:25pm:
Did something change recently?

I have troubles with video. I see the models online, but if I enter the room I only get "model joining the chat" message all the time. It's not the browser problem.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by Tre on Sep 27th, 2017 at 5:26pm

xhero wrote on Sep 2nd, 2017 at 5:20am:

I  was just trying to make some guys opening their eyes, understanding that girls are just interested in earning money, more than getting to really know the viewer. And once again, I  can't blame them. It's more than legit, and honestly, if I was a girl I'm not sure I would feel that interest for someone paying me to show off.


I don't want to belabor this topic, as there's already been enough back-and-forth, and I do not wish to sound in any way contentious, but I did want to add a quick point about business, in general.

When we are counseling new (and old!) models on how to be successful on HBC, one of the primary points of emphasis is that they are each operating their own business while logged into our platform.  Think about the myriad of things - presentation, pricing/value, customer service, etc - that can make any business have greater chances for success and this is how we are advising the models on HBC.

Some HBC models are better businesswomen than others - that's a fact. We want them all to be successful, but things that make sense to some will not make sense to others. And there are a number of models who DO care about developing great customer relationships. Every business is a transactional environment, but the root of many successful businesses is the relationship that many proprietors and customers develop with one another and HBC is no different in that regard. 

The models who truly do not care about anything other than your money rarely last very long around here. You guys are smart consumers, and the models who recognize and RESPECT that can do well for many years.

Title: Re: HBC improvement
Post by loozer78 on Oct 16th, 2017 at 2:18am
For those on Chrome try updating Flash and after it installs:

Go to Herbicepscam.com.
To the left of the web address, click Lock or Info icon.
To the right of 'Flash', click the Arrows.
Choose Always allow on this site.
Reload the page.

That should solve your problem.

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