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Message started by Ricardo on Dec 1st, 2016 at 8:23pm

Title: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 1st, 2016 at 8:23pm
Is more than a week without updates of any kind I hope that soon the site will be updated >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Skoda2 on Dec 4th, 2016 at 2:00am
yes where are the updates?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 4th, 2016 at 8:29am
huge update tomorrow guys, sorry about the delay

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 5th, 2016 at 1:51pm
Still waiting the "huge update"

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Dec 5th, 2016 at 2:48pm

Ricardo wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 1:51pm:
Still waiting the "huge update"


yesterday told tomorrow which is today, I guess you'll have to wait for few hours... :P

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Skoda2 on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:42am
ok not today for some of the world then...:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by macdis on Dec 6th, 2016 at 3:08am

Mike wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 8:29am:
huge update tomorrow guys, sorry about the delay


Do not make promises you cannot keep.  It's the same "teaser" issue I've mentioned before.  So when will there REALLY be an update?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Dec 6th, 2016 at 3:10am
Big surprise. Huge. Yuuuuuge. Blame it on Jina.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:16am
it`s not the lack of updates that bothers me...the lack
of 2016 videos is very frustrating....

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:07pm
The link for Erica Blockman and Lisa Stark videos is not working, can you check it please.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Dec 6th, 2016 at 2:25pm
after this "huge"updates of 2015 videos, should we wait for the same for videos shoot this year? or we have to
wait for the launch of the website next year?
and ...it seems that you no longer take measurement
of women with big muscles (in rare cases if there is any
of this kind of videos, they are 11-12 inch mark, which
is pathetic for the world of bodybuilding)
i remember in 2003-04-05 they were so many mesurement
videos of bodybuilders...so many....

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Dec 6th, 2016 at 2:43pm
Kurtis: quit whining. I'll paraphrase Spin, one of the moderators here on the boards and a person who has been a member of HB longer than me. "While you wait for updates, there is an enormous amount of material in the overall catalog to check out."   

Moral of the story is this: can you say with honesty that you have viewed every video clip on this site and looked at every photo? If you have not visited the back catalog, you are really missing out. Same for Ricardo.

Great video update. Unfortunately for me, I won't have time to view any of them until Friday (Dec. 9).

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Dec 6th, 2016 at 5:23pm
wow!!! 18 minutes only!!!
new PR..great job 6789shav, great!!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by spin on Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:41pm

Kurtis Trent wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 5:23pm:
wow!!! 18 minutes only!!!
new PR..great job 6789shav, great!!!

We're checking out response times now? 😄 Ah, the new age of social media!
Kurtis, you should remember that bodybuilding contests these days have nowhere near the popularity or frequency of the physique and figure shows, so it stands to reason that more of those types of models will be featured on the site.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:11am
13 of the page updates were 2016 videos...the rest were mid to late 2015 videos for the most part


Kurtis Trent wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 2:25pm:
after this "huge"updates of 2015 videos, should we wait for the same for videos shoot this year? or we have to
wait for the launch of the website next year?
and ...it seems that you no longer take measurement
of women with big muscles (in rare cases if there is any
of this kind of videos, they are 11-12 inch mark, which
is pathetic for the world of bodybuilding)
i remember in 2003-04-05 they were so many mesurement
videos of bodybuilders...so many....


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:11am

Ricardo wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:07pm:
The link for Erica Blockman and Lisa Stark videos is not working, can you check it please.


will fix in a jiffy

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Dec 7th, 2016 at 8:46pm
When will be Nadia Amy videos?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Dec 8th, 2016 at 3:52pm

oresto94a wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 8:46pm:
When will be Nadia Amy videos?

+1

Although it'll probably take at least six months, considering the huge delay between promo images on instagram and the actual website uploads.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 9th, 2016 at 6:38am
probably 6-15 months from now

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:49am
;D ;D ;D
Mike wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 6:38am:
probably 6-15 months from now


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 10th, 2016 at 4:41am
Erica Blockman and Lisa Stark video still missing :'( :'(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Dec 13th, 2016 at 2:39pm
Very good updates the past few days.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 29th, 2016 at 12:48pm
I think that the members deserves a huge Christmas update ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 29th, 2016 at 6:28pm
just posted the first of several big updates to come

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by jumponit on Dec 30th, 2016 at 4:06am
I know it's the red-headed stepchild, but Team HerBiceps...... :'(

Just dumping any and all unreleased Rebekah Willich and Olivia Moschetti photos and videos will make up for it, though. :)

(I like fit blondes with great abs)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Irv on Dec 30th, 2016 at 10:59am

Mike wrote on Dec 29th, 2016 at 6:28pm:
just posted the first of several big updates to come

Thanks for the update Mike. Have you considered applying some quality control? I don't know maybe hiring some admin help whatever. 12.28 update has  broken links, some pages which should be updated are not - it is happening more and more often... Come on... Just an example:
Blanca silas - Error 404
Ariel Gail - no update at all
There is more of it.
Also update from almost month ago - 12.6 Duo of Lisa and Eirka - still 404
...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by autechre on Dec 30th, 2016 at 8:32pm

Irv wrote on Dec 30th, 2016 at 10:59am:

Mike wrote on Dec 29th, 2016 at 6:28pm:
just posted the first of several big updates to come

Thanks for the update Mike. Have you considered applying some quality control? I don't know maybe hiring some admin help whatever. 12.28 update has broken links, some pages which should be updated are not - it is happening more and more often... Come on... Just an example:
Blanca silas - Error 404
Ariel Gail - no update at all
There is more of it.
Also update from almost month ago - 12.6 Duo of Lisa and Eirka - still 404
...


Definitely a pet peeve of mine too. There's usually not an update goes by without some errors.

The link for the Erica & Lisa B videos is still broken - 404 error

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 30th, 2016 at 10:20pm
great notes, guys...fixing in today's update :)

in a few months, these kinds of errors will be a thing of the past as we move to the new super awesome incredible plus site

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 30th, 2016 at 10:59pm
should be all fixed now...Lisa S/Erica B...Ariel Gail was updated but the two clips carried the date of uploaded to the site, not posted...I usually make that chance when I update the page...Blanca fixed as well...

let me know if you find any more mistakes and I'll fix

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by autechre on Dec 31st, 2016 at 2:08am

Mike wrote on Dec 30th, 2016 at 10:59pm:
should be all fixed now...Lisa S/Erica B...Ariel Gail was updated but the two clips carried the date of uploaded to the site, not posted...I usually make that chance when I update the page...Blanca fixed as well...

let me know if you find any more mistakes and I'll fix


Thank you sir, much appreciated  :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 31st, 2016 at 9:35pm
Thanks great updates and no more broken links

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by autechre on Jan 1st, 2017 at 5:16am

Ricardo wrote on Dec 31st, 2016 at 9:35pm:
Thanks great updates and no more broken links


No broken links, but the Dana Osakada (12.30.16) update is missing. Last update on her page is 12.6

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Jan 2nd, 2017 at 4:35pm
Kasey Needham update is missing as well

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 3rd, 2017 at 1:28am
TeamHerBiceps.com is caught up now.


jumponit wrote on Dec 30th, 2016 at 4:06am:
I know it's the red-headed stepchild, but Team HerBiceps...... :'(

Just dumping any and all unreleased Rebekah Willich and Olivia Moschetti photos and videos will make up for it, though. :)

(I like fit blondes with great abs)


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by jumponit on Jan 7th, 2017 at 9:00pm
Yes it was. I take it this means that the archives for Rebekah and Olivia have been exhausted?


Mike wrote on Jan 3rd, 2017 at 1:28am:
TeamHerBiceps.com is caught up now.


jumponit wrote on Dec 30th, 2016 at 4:06am:
I know it's the red-headed stepchild, but Team HerBiceps...... :'(

Just dumping any and all unreleased Rebekah Willich and Olivia Moschetti photos and videos will make up for it, though. :)

(I like fit blondes with great abs)


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 9th, 2017 at 7:32am
THB archives for both women are depleted.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by jumponit on Jan 10th, 2017 at 1:18am
Ah...thought there might be some crossovers here and there.

I take it more from them will have to wait until HerBiceps Plus?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 10th, 2017 at 6:54am
pretty sure we have some Rebekah stuff from herbiceps shoots that hasn't been posted, and I know Tre has some wrestling footage of her that will be posted at the HBPlus site eventually (I know some was released already on his site).

As for Olivia, I think we have some more shoot footage of her to release as well on here.


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Jan 25th, 2017 at 11:27pm
Sean's instagram is updated daily. Meanwhile tumbleweeds are rolling through the website like it's 2016. Ten days without an update is a bit long, Mike.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 26th, 2017 at 5:38pm
sorry, man...I should be posting a biggy today

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jan 27th, 2017 at 1:23pm
I really like when in the site a big update is posted but I don't like that these updates are random sometimes we only have to wait 2 or 3 days between updates but this last 12 days the site is dead.  >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Jan 27th, 2017 at 5:13pm

Ricardo wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
I really like when in the site a big update is posted but I don't like that these updates are random sometimes we only have to wait 2 or 3 days between updates but this last 12 days the site is dead. >:(


mine only problem is that still there is almost nothing from 2016 shootings...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by duffman on Jan 27th, 2017 at 7:07pm
Guess they save a lot of stuff for the new website. By the way how far is herbicepsplus? When will it be lauched?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Jan 28th, 2017 at 3:36pm

Mike wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 5:38pm:
sorry, man...I should be posting a biggy today

This is so ambiguous.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 28th, 2017 at 5:46pm
sorry guys...meant to do one yesterday...the new baby is 5 days old and kicking our arse

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by spin on Jan 28th, 2017 at 7:32pm

Mike wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 5:46pm:
sorry guys...meant to do one yesterday...the new baby is 5 days old and kicking our arse

No announcement? Congratulations!!
Flexing yet?  :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Jan 29th, 2017 at 12:15am
So what about that big uptade you was talking about 3 days ago? Its too long without any news...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 29th, 2017 at 1:50am
First part of it should be up now

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Jan 29th, 2017 at 3:58am

Mike wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 1:50am:
First part of it should be up now

I appreciate your situation, Mike, and may the child be child be healthy for all eternity!

Nevertheless, don't forget that you have paying customers always awaiting the next update.

But mainly, congratulations on bringing a new human being into this (maybe somewhat twisted) world! All the best!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Jan 29th, 2017 at 7:30am
Mike, have you stopped doing measurements videos??
Last few updates there isn`t any...No measurement pictures last few years, too!! Please don`t became as the other boring "only posing" sites...and please post more from 2016 shootings...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Jan 29th, 2017 at 2:41pm
Good old Kurtis; a guy who would die if he ever offered a compliment.........

What's an "only posing" site? Every pay site I've ever joined has both photos and video clips. Shall I name them for you?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Jan 30th, 2017 at 3:22pm
When will you post next part of that big update?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 8:53am
Thanks for your support Mike...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by hb_fan on Feb 4th, 2017 at 10:00am

Mike wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 1:50am:
First part of it should be up now

Will the next part include any photo updates? The last photo update was 25 days ago (Jan 11),

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Feb 5th, 2017 at 2:39am
once a week updates are hard to get used to but any news on when hb plus is possibly launching?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 5th, 2017 at 4:37am
Shooting for this late spring or summer...will be trying to update more often here, back to the office next week...


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Feb 5th, 2017 at 9:56pm
Hi Mike. Thanks for the massive photo update.

Unfortunately, the Erika Otero "Power and Beauty" gallery still isn't working. It was originally uploaded on April 24, 2016 and I did report it.   Thanks.   Shav

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 6th, 2017 at 5:18pm
Again almost week without uptade, just talking and talking about "biggy" comming and nobody can see it...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Feb 6th, 2017 at 8:04pm
Hey Mike,
by the by, when are you gonna post the rest of the armwrestling Clips of the shoot with Jeanette Krupp???

This ones where you posted pics already in November 2016!!=

http://www.herbiceps.com/members/picthumb/Jeannette_Krupp_15Gym_Armwrestling_Beast/index00.htm

??
I would like to see those Clips!!! And Im sure many other members as well!!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 7th, 2017 at 11:59am
Fully ignoring people who pay you. Great

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Feb 7th, 2017 at 2:04pm
I think that now this is a site with updates with a random interval of days, we have to wait for more than a week for a "huge" update without any explanation in order to improve the customer service. >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 8th, 2017 at 9:46pm
those actually just got edited so in the next month or so they'll likely go up...I'll try and remember to do them next week after they get finalized


mavri5 wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 8:04pm:
Hey Mike,
by the by, when are you gonna post the rest of the armwrestling Clips of the shoot with Jeanette Krupp???

This ones where you posted pics already in November 2016!!=

http://www.herbiceps.com/members/picthumb/Jeannette_Krupp_15Gym_Armwrestling_Beast/index00.htm

??
I would like to see those Clips!!! And Im sure many other members as well!!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 8th, 2017 at 9:46pm

oresto94a wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 5:18pm:
Again almost week without uptade, just talking and talking about "biggy" comming and nobody can see it...


you don't see the update?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:15pm
i see, that 28.01 update -.-

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 9th, 2017 at 4:52pm
just clear your browser's cache and you should see the updates

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 9th, 2017 at 5:14pm
yeah i saw it. Worst update ive seen on that site. Looking like you just wanna uptade some so we shut up and stop complainning

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 9th, 2017 at 9:55pm
gosh, I thought the last couple of updates were pretty strong...maybe you'll like the next update better...if it ever comes :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Feb 9th, 2017 at 11:06pm
Sean's latest highlight video is fantastic. Raising my hand for Shanique in the next update! And Margret! And all the others!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Feb 9th, 2017 at 11:30pm
Some great new photo galleries. And noticed the first gallery of Natalya Kovalyova. Really hot. And bet she could break oresto94a or Kurtis Trent in half without working up a sweat. Any takers boys?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 10th, 2017 at 9:27am
Dont think so, im pretty big too ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:39pm

6789shav wrote on Feb 9th, 2017 at 11:30pm:
Some great new photo galleries. And noticed the first gallery of Natalya Kovalyova. Really hot. And bet she could break oresto94a or Kurtis Trent in half without working up a sweat. Any takers boys?

Last summer she was in my country for vacation, in a resort, 10 km from my city, have not met her but there are guys from my gym that make pictures with her in the beach...well this guys are huge in the gym, but next to her they are just like little skinny boys, as you, I suppose...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:42pm
She isn't so big dude. Her arms are like 16 inch MAX. I have 19 inch, and im even not one of biggest guys in my gym

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:49pm

oresto94a wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:42pm:
She isn't so big dude. Her arms are like 16 inch MAX. I have 19 inch, and im even not one of biggest guys in my gym


47 cm - 18.5 in


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:55pm
Still not that big :)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLi-0wbjkwm/

43- 17 inch :)

And that pic you uploaded is Natalia Trukhina not Natalia Kovalyova :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:45pm
......."they are just like little skinny boys, as you, I suppose."   Nice try Kurtis. You can't even do insults right.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 12th, 2017 at 7:33pm
Yes, you're right, my mistake, I was talkiing about Trukhina who is now Kuznetsova...
she was on vacation near to my city, not Kovalyova...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 15th, 2017 at 11:40pm
SOme uptade Mike? I though you uptade some for valentine :(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 16th, 2017 at 7:29pm
ignoring, ignoring, ignoring, you was online fkin dickhead couldnt you just reply?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Feb 16th, 2017 at 8:00pm
yes because throwing a temper tantrum is going to make him want to reply even more! mike just had a kid... give him a break man.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 16th, 2017 at 8:18pm
I dont care if he had kid, he can have 10, if you take money from ppl for service you do that service or you refund money. Its not right when you pay and you get 2 uptade, 2 poor updates for half a month

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Feb 16th, 2017 at 9:02pm
oresto94a: there are some good online references to assist you with spelling, punctuation, and grammar. Do a Google.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Feb 16th, 2017 at 9:04pm
i've literally never seen this guy post anything positive or constructive at all.  ;D   just keep bitching, im sure it will work one day

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 16th, 2017 at 11:25pm
I dont complain for no reason... im customer and ive rights to complain when im dissapointed

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Sean on Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:43am
oresto94a, when you say poor updates, can you tell me what you were hoping for in the updates? You are not a fan of Diana Schnaidt or Jen Louwagie to name a few?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 17th, 2017 at 5:17am

Sean wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:43am:
oresto94a, when you say poor updates, can you tell me what you were hoping for in the updates? You are not a fan of Diana Schnaidt or Jen Louwagie to name a few?


Diana and Jen updates are very rare, and they are from 2015
It`s 2017 now!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:05am

Sean wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:43am:
oresto94a, when you say poor updates, can you tell me what you were hoping for in the updates? You are not a fan of Diana Schnaidt or Jen Louwagie to name a few?


Why poor? Pls look how much vids was updated and tell me that it wasnt poor updates, oh sorry 10+ videos from adult expo where are no FKIN muscles.
Its week again without any uptades, and where is Mike talking that he is back to office and start updating more often?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by duffman on Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:28pm
Just a suggestion for the new website herbicepsplus:
Smaller updates on a regular basis (maybe two or three times a week).
The updates don't need to be huge but more frequent. Personally I don't really care bit I think many members would be happy with more but smaller updates.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 17th, 2017 at 3:03pm

duffman wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:28pm:
Just a suggestion for the new website herbicepsplus:
Smaller updates on a regular basis (maybe two or three times a week).
The updates don't need to be huge but more frequent. Personally I don't really care bit I think many members would be happy with more but smaller updates.


absolutely (of course exept 6789shav)...and longer videos, and more women with muscles, as your first years, remember, there wasn`t any figure and bikini girls, 90 % of the videos were with big muscular ladies and huge amount of AW and measurement videos (no idea why you almost stopped doing them...)
or you can make two websites, one, only with pictures specially for
6789shav ...and another for 99 % of the members with videos, only :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Feb 17th, 2017 at 3:45pm
Kurtis: there is an old saying, maybe from Mark Twain. Better to keep one's mouth shut and maybe be thought of as a fool; than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. Seems like you're in the latter category.

Guess you haven't fully read the thread. I'm not the only person who likes photo galleries. I don't have the time that you seem to have, Kurtis, to sit through minutes of videos. The photos allow me, and perhaps others, to do a quick sampling of a shoot in minimal time.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Feb 17th, 2017 at 4:49pm
i think it's safe to say that everyone has their own preferences. some like the pic updates and some like the videos. i really enjoy the figure girl updates, some like girls with lots of muscle. sean, mike and all know what theyre doing...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 19th, 2017 at 9:53am
9 days Mike...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Feb 19th, 2017 at 1:50pm
well, honestly, I would prefer a regular update more than a huge one after 10 days.
after all those years a bit of organization would not be disappointing.
anyway, we know the update will be good.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Feb 19th, 2017 at 9:51pm
yeah it is a bit annoying only getting 3-4 updates per month, im sure when the new wesbite drops it will be different?

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