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Message started by Ricardo on Dec 1st, 2016 at 8:23pm

Title: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 1st, 2016 at 8:23pm
Is more than a week without updates of any kind I hope that soon the site will be updated >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Skoda2 on Dec 4th, 2016 at 2:00am
yes where are the updates?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 4th, 2016 at 8:29am
huge update tomorrow guys, sorry about the delay

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 5th, 2016 at 1:51pm
Still waiting the "huge update"

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Dec 5th, 2016 at 2:48pm

Ricardo wrote on Dec 5th, 2016 at 1:51pm:
Still waiting the "huge update"


yesterday told tomorrow which is today, I guess you'll have to wait for few hours... :P

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Skoda2 on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:42am
ok not today for some of the world then...:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by macdis on Dec 6th, 2016 at 3:08am

Mike wrote on Dec 4th, 2016 at 8:29am:
huge update tomorrow guys, sorry about the delay


Do not make promises you cannot keep.  It's the same "teaser" issue I've mentioned before.  So when will there REALLY be an update?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Dec 6th, 2016 at 3:10am
Big surprise. Huge. Yuuuuuge. Blame it on Jina.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:16am
it`s not the lack of updates that bothers me...the lack
of 2016 videos is very frustrating....

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:07pm
The link for Erica Blockman and Lisa Stark videos is not working, can you check it please.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Dec 6th, 2016 at 2:25pm
after this "huge"updates of 2015 videos, should we wait for the same for videos shoot this year? or we have to
wait for the launch of the website next year?
and ...it seems that you no longer take measurement
of women with big muscles (in rare cases if there is any
of this kind of videos, they are 11-12 inch mark, which
is pathetic for the world of bodybuilding)
i remember in 2003-04-05 they were so many mesurement
videos of bodybuilders...so many....

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Dec 6th, 2016 at 2:43pm
Kurtis: quit whining. I'll paraphrase Spin, one of the moderators here on the boards and a person who has been a member of HB longer than me. "While you wait for updates, there is an enormous amount of material in the overall catalog to check out."   

Moral of the story is this: can you say with honesty that you have viewed every video clip on this site and looked at every photo? If you have not visited the back catalog, you are really missing out. Same for Ricardo.

Great video update. Unfortunately for me, I won't have time to view any of them until Friday (Dec. 9).

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Dec 6th, 2016 at 5:23pm
wow!!! 18 minutes only!!!
new PR..great job 6789shav, great!!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by spin on Dec 6th, 2016 at 6:41pm

Kurtis Trent wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 5:23pm:
wow!!! 18 minutes only!!!
new PR..great job 6789shav, great!!!

We're checking out response times now? 😄 Ah, the new age of social media!
Kurtis, you should remember that bodybuilding contests these days have nowhere near the popularity or frequency of the physique and figure shows, so it stands to reason that more of those types of models will be featured on the site.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:11am
13 of the page updates were 2016 videos...the rest were mid to late 2015 videos for the most part


Kurtis Trent wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 2:25pm:
after this "huge"updates of 2015 videos, should we wait for the same for videos shoot this year? or we have to
wait for the launch of the website next year?
and ...it seems that you no longer take measurement
of women with big muscles (in rare cases if there is any
of this kind of videos, they are 11-12 inch mark, which
is pathetic for the world of bodybuilding)
i remember in 2003-04-05 they were so many mesurement
videos of bodybuilders...so many....


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:11am

Ricardo wrote on Dec 6th, 2016 at 1:07pm:
The link for Erica Blockman and Lisa Stark videos is not working, can you check it please.


will fix in a jiffy

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Dec 7th, 2016 at 8:46pm
When will be Nadia Amy videos?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Dec 8th, 2016 at 3:52pm

oresto94a wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 8:46pm:
When will be Nadia Amy videos?

+1

Although it'll probably take at least six months, considering the huge delay between promo images on instagram and the actual website uploads.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 9th, 2016 at 6:38am
probably 6-15 months from now

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Dec 9th, 2016 at 10:49am
;D ;D ;D
Mike wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 6:38am:
probably 6-15 months from now


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 10th, 2016 at 4:41am
Erica Blockman and Lisa Stark video still missing :'( :'(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Dec 13th, 2016 at 2:39pm
Very good updates the past few days.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 29th, 2016 at 12:48pm
I think that the members deserves a huge Christmas update ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 29th, 2016 at 6:28pm
just posted the first of several big updates to come

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by jumponit on Dec 30th, 2016 at 4:06am
I know it's the red-headed stepchild, but Team HerBiceps......† :'(

Just dumping any and all unreleased Rebekah Willich and Olivia Moschetti photos and videos will make up for it, though.† :)

(I like fit blondes with great abs)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Irv on Dec 30th, 2016 at 10:59am

Mike wrote on Dec 29th, 2016 at 6:28pm:
just posted the first of several big updates to come

Thanks for the update Mike. Have you considered applying some quality control? I don't know maybe hiring some admin help whatever. 12.28 update has  broken links, some pages which should be updated are not - it is happening more and more often... Come on... Just an example:
Blanca silas - Error 404
Ariel Gail - no update at all
There is more of it.
Also update from almost month ago - 12.6 Duo of Lisa and Eirka - still 404
...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by autechre on Dec 30th, 2016 at 8:32pm

Irv wrote on Dec 30th, 2016 at 10:59am:

Mike wrote on Dec 29th, 2016 at 6:28pm:
just posted the first of several big updates to come

Thanks for the update Mike. Have you considered applying some quality control? I don't know maybe hiring some admin help whatever. 12.28 update has† broken links, some pages which should be updated are not - it is happening more and more often... Come on... Just an example:
Blanca silas - Error 404
Ariel Gail - no update at all
There is more of it.
Also update from almost month ago - 12.6 Duo of Lisa and Eirka - still 404
...


Definitely a pet peeve of mine too. There's usually not an update goes by without some errors.

The link for the Erica & Lisa B videos is still broken - 404 error

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 30th, 2016 at 10:20pm
great notes, guys...fixing in today's update :)

in a few months, these kinds of errors will be a thing of the past as we move to the new super awesome incredible plus site

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 30th, 2016 at 10:59pm
should be all fixed now...Lisa S/Erica B...Ariel Gail was updated but the two clips carried the date of uploaded to the site, not posted...I usually make that chance when I update the page...Blanca fixed as well...

let me know if you find any more mistakes and I'll fix

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by autechre on Dec 31st, 2016 at 2:08am

Mike wrote on Dec 30th, 2016 at 10:59pm:
should be all fixed now...Lisa S/Erica B...Ariel Gail was updated but the two clips carried the date of uploaded to the site, not posted...I usually make that chance when I update the page...Blanca fixed as well...

let me know if you find any more mistakes and I'll fix


Thank you sir, much appreciated  :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 31st, 2016 at 9:35pm
Thanks great updates and no more broken links

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by autechre on Jan 1st, 2017 at 5:16am

Ricardo wrote on Dec 31st, 2016 at 9:35pm:
Thanks great updates and no more broken links


No broken links, but the Dana Osakada (12.30.16) update is missing. Last update on her page is 12.6

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Jan 2nd, 2017 at 4:35pm
Kasey Needham update is missing as well

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 3rd, 2017 at 1:28am
TeamHerBiceps.com is caught up now.


jumponit wrote on Dec 30th, 2016 at 4:06am:
I know it's the red-headed stepchild, but Team HerBiceps......† :'(

Just dumping any and all unreleased Rebekah Willich and Olivia Moschetti photos and videos will make up for it, though.† :)

(I like fit blondes with great abs)


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by jumponit on Jan 7th, 2017 at 9:00pm
Yes it was. I take it this means that the archives for Rebekah and Olivia have been exhausted?


Mike wrote on Jan 3rd, 2017 at 1:28am:
TeamHerBiceps.com is caught up now.


jumponit wrote on Dec 30th, 2016 at 4:06am:
I know it's the red-headed stepchild, but Team HerBiceps......† :'(

Just dumping any and all unreleased Rebekah Willich and Olivia Moschetti photos and videos will make up for it, though.† :)

(I like fit blondes with great abs)


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 9th, 2017 at 7:32am
THB archives for both women are depleted.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by jumponit on Jan 10th, 2017 at 1:18am
Ah...thought there might be some crossovers here and there.

I take it more from them will have to wait until HerBiceps Plus?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 10th, 2017 at 6:54am
pretty sure we have some Rebekah stuff from herbiceps shoots that hasn't been posted, and I know Tre has some wrestling footage of her that will be posted at the HBPlus site eventually (I know some was released already on his site).

As for Olivia, I think we have some more shoot footage of her to release as well on here.


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Jan 25th, 2017 at 11:27pm
Sean's instagram is updated daily. Meanwhile tumbleweeds are rolling through the website like it's 2016. Ten days without an update is a bit long, Mike.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 26th, 2017 at 5:38pm
sorry, man...I should be posting a biggy today

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jan 27th, 2017 at 1:23pm
I really like when in the site a big update is posted but I don't like that these updates are random sometimes we only have to wait 2 or 3 days between updates but this last 12 days the site is dead.  >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Jan 27th, 2017 at 5:13pm

Ricardo wrote on Jan 27th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
I really like when in the site a big update is posted but I don't like that these updates are random sometimes we only have to wait 2 or 3 days between updates but this last 12 days the site is dead.† >:(


mine only problem is that still there is almost nothing from 2016 shootings...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by duffman on Jan 27th, 2017 at 7:07pm
Guess they save a lot of stuff for the new website. By the way how far is herbicepsplus? When will it be lauched?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Jan 28th, 2017 at 3:36pm

Mike wrote on Jan 26th, 2017 at 5:38pm:
sorry, man...I should be posting a biggy today

This is so ambiguous.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 28th, 2017 at 5:46pm
sorry guys...meant to do one yesterday...the new baby is 5 days old and kicking our arse

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by spin on Jan 28th, 2017 at 7:32pm

Mike wrote on Jan 28th, 2017 at 5:46pm:
sorry guys...meant to do one yesterday...the new baby is 5 days old and kicking our arse

No announcement? Congratulations!!
Flexing yet?  :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Jan 29th, 2017 at 12:15am
So what about that big uptade you was talking about 3 days ago? Its too long without any news...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 29th, 2017 at 1:50am
First part of it should be up now

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Jan 29th, 2017 at 3:58am

Mike wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 1:50am:
First part of it should be up now

I appreciate your situation, Mike, and may the child be child be healthy for all eternity!

Nevertheless, don't forget that you have paying customers always awaiting the next update.

But mainly, congratulations on bringing a new human being into this (maybe somewhat twisted) world! All the best!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Jan 29th, 2017 at 7:30am
Mike, have you stopped doing measurements videos??
Last few updates there isn`t any...No measurement pictures last few years, too!! Please don`t became as the other boring "only posing" sites...and please post more from 2016 shootings...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Jan 29th, 2017 at 2:41pm
Good old Kurtis; a guy who would die if he ever offered a compliment.........† †

What's an "only posing" site? Every pay site I've ever joined has both photos and video clips. Shall I name them for you?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Jan 30th, 2017 at 3:22pm
When will you post next part of that big update?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 8:53am
Thanks for your support Mike...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by hb_fan on Feb 4th, 2017 at 10:00am

Mike wrote on Jan 29th, 2017 at 1:50am:
First part of it should be up now

Will the next part include any photo updates? The last photo update was 25 days ago (Jan 11),

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Feb 5th, 2017 at 2:39am
once a week updates are hard to get used to but any news on when hb plus is possibly launching?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 5th, 2017 at 4:37am
Shooting for this late spring or summer...will be trying to update more often here, back to the office next week...


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Feb 5th, 2017 at 9:56pm
Hi Mike. Thanks for the massive photo update.

Unfortunately, the Erika Otero "Power and Beauty" gallery still isn't working. It was originally uploaded on April 24, 2016 and I did report it.   Thanks.   Shav

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 6th, 2017 at 5:18pm
Again almost week without uptade, just talking and talking about "biggy" comming and nobody can see it...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Feb 6th, 2017 at 8:04pm
Hey Mike,
by the by, when are you gonna post the rest of the armwrestling Clips of the shoot with Jeanette Krupp???

This ones where you posted pics already in November 2016!!=

http://www.herbiceps.com/members/picthumb/Jeannette_Krupp_15Gym_Armwrestling_Beast/index00.htm

??
I would like to see those Clips!!! And Iīm sure many other members as well!!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 7th, 2017 at 11:59am
Fully ignoring people who pay you. Great

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Feb 7th, 2017 at 2:04pm
I think that now this is a site with updates with a random interval of days, we have to wait for more than a week for a "huge" update without any explanation in order to improve the customer service. >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 8th, 2017 at 9:46pm
those actually just got edited so in the next month or so they'll likely go up...I'll try and remember to do them next week after they get finalized


mavri5 wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 8:04pm:
Hey Mike,
by the by, when are you gonna post the rest of the armwrestling Clips of the shoot with Jeanette Krupp???

This ones where you posted pics already in November 2016!!=

http://www.herbiceps.com/members/picthumb/Jeannette_Krupp_15Gym_Armwrestling_Beast/index00.htm

??
I would like to see those Clips!!! And Iīm sure many other members as well!!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 8th, 2017 at 9:46pm

oresto94a wrote on Feb 6th, 2017 at 5:18pm:
Again almost week without uptade, just talking and talking about "biggy" comming and nobody can see it...


you don't see the update?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 8th, 2017 at 10:15pm
i see, that 28.01 update -.-

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 9th, 2017 at 4:52pm
just clear your browser's cache and you should see the updates

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 9th, 2017 at 5:14pm
yeah i saw it. Worst update ive seen on that site. Looking like you just wanna uptade some so we shut up and stop complainning

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 9th, 2017 at 9:55pm
gosh, I thought the last couple of updates were pretty strong...maybe you'll like the next update better...if it ever comes :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Feb 9th, 2017 at 11:06pm
Sean's latest highlight video is fantastic. Raising my hand for Shanique in the next update! And Margret! And all the others!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Feb 9th, 2017 at 11:30pm
Some great new photo galleries. And noticed the first gallery of Natalya Kovalyova. Really hot. And bet she could break oresto94a or Kurtis Trent in half without working up a sweat. Any takers boys?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 10th, 2017 at 9:27am
Dont think so, im pretty big too ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:39pm

6789shav wrote on Feb 9th, 2017 at 11:30pm:
Some great new photo galleries. And noticed the first gallery of Natalya Kovalyova. Really hot. And bet she could break oresto94a or Kurtis Trent in half without working up a sweat. Any takers boys?

Last summer she was in my country for vacation, in a resort, 10 km from my city, have not met her but there are guys from my gym that make pictures with her in the beach...well this guys are huge in the gym, but next to her they are just like little skinny boys, as you, I suppose...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:42pm
She isn't so big dude. Her arms are like 16 inch MAX. I have 19 inch, and im even not one of biggest guys in my gym

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:49pm

oresto94a wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:42pm:
She isn't so big dude. Her arms are like 16 inch MAX. I have 19 inch, and im even not one of biggest guys in my gym


47 cm - 18.5 in


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:55pm
Still not that big :)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLi-0wbjkwm/

43- 17 inch :)

And that pic you uploaded is Natalia Trukhina not Natalia Kovalyova :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:45pm
......."they are just like little skinny boys, as you, I suppose."   Nice try Kurtis. You can't even do insults right.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 12th, 2017 at 7:33pm
Yes, you're right, my mistake, I was talkiing about Trukhina who is now Kuznetsova...
she was on vacation near to my city, not Kovalyova...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 15th, 2017 at 11:40pm
SOme uptade Mike? I though you uptade some for valentine :(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 16th, 2017 at 7:29pm
ignoring, ignoring, ignoring, you was online fkin dickhead couldnt you just reply?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Feb 16th, 2017 at 8:00pm
yes because throwing a temper tantrum is going to make him want to reply even more! mike just had a kid... give him a break man.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 16th, 2017 at 8:18pm
I dont care if he had kid, he can have 10, if you take money from ppl for service you do that service or you refund money. Its not right when you pay and you get 2 uptade, 2 poor updates for half a month

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Feb 16th, 2017 at 9:02pm
oresto94a: there are some good online references to assist you with spelling, punctuation, and grammar. Do a Google.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Feb 16th, 2017 at 9:04pm
i've literally never seen this guy post anything positive or constructive at all.  ;D   just keep bitching, im sure it will work one day

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 16th, 2017 at 11:25pm
I dont complain for no reason... im customer and ive rights to complain when im dissapointed

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Sean on Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:43am
oresto94a, when you say poor updates, can you tell me what you were hoping for in the updates? You are not a fan of Diana Schnaidt or Jen Louwagie to name a few?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 17th, 2017 at 5:17am

Sean wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:43am:
oresto94a, when you say poor updates, can you tell me what you were hoping for in the updates? You are not a fan of Diana Schnaidt or Jen Louwagie to name a few?


Diana and Jen updates are very rare, and they are from 2015
It`s 2017 now!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:05am

Sean wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:43am:
oresto94a, when you say poor updates, can you tell me what you were hoping for in the updates? You are not a fan of Diana Schnaidt or Jen Louwagie to name a few?


Why poor? Pls look how much vids was updated and tell me that it wasnt poor updates, oh sorry 10+ videos from adult expo where are no FKIN muscles.
Its week again without any uptades, and where is Mike talking that he is back to office and start updating more often?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by duffman on Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:28pm
Just a suggestion for the new website herbicepsplus:
Smaller updates on a regular basis (maybe two or three times a week).
The updates don't need to be huge but more frequent. Personally I don't really care bit I think many members would be happy with more but smaller updates.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 17th, 2017 at 3:03pm

duffman wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:28pm:
Just a suggestion for the new website herbicepsplus:
Smaller updates on a regular basis (maybe two or three times a week).
The updates don't need to be huge but more frequent. Personally I don't really care bit I think many members would be happy with more but smaller updates.


absolutely (of course exept 6789shav)...and longer videos, and more women with muscles, as your first years, remember, there wasn`t any figure and bikini girls, 90 % of the videos were with big muscular ladies and huge amount of AW and measurement videos (no idea why you almost stopped doing them...)
or you can make two websites, one, only with pictures specially for
6789shav ...and another for 99 % of the members with videos, only† :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Feb 17th, 2017 at 3:45pm
Kurtis: there is an old saying, maybe from Mark Twain. Better to keep one's mouth shut and maybe be thought of as a fool; than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. Seems like you're in the latter category.

Guess you haven't fully read the thread. I'm not the only person who likes photo galleries. I don't have the time that you seem to have, Kurtis, to sit through minutes of videos. The photos allow me, and perhaps others, to do a quick sampling of a shoot in minimal time.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Feb 17th, 2017 at 4:49pm
i think it's safe to say that everyone has their own preferences. some like the pic updates and some like the videos. i really enjoy the figure girl updates, some like girls with lots of muscle. sean, mike and all know what theyre doing...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 19th, 2017 at 9:53am
9 days Mike...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Feb 19th, 2017 at 1:50pm
well, honestly, I would prefer a regular update more than a huge one after 10 days.
after all those years a bit of organization would not be disappointing.
anyway, we know the update will be good.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Feb 19th, 2017 at 9:51pm
yeah it is a bit annoying only getting 3-4 updates per month, im sure when the new wesbite drops it will be different?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Feb 20th, 2017 at 1:24am
I wish that the upcoming update will be big and with videos of this year of female bodybuilders. As a member I don't want daily updates but I expect that at least the site have a weekly update.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 20th, 2017 at 5:02am

Ricardo wrote on Feb 20th, 2017 at 1:24am:
I wish that the upcoming update will be big and with videos of this year of female bodybuilders.


They don`t shoot women with big muscles, anymore....


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Feb 20th, 2017 at 6:50am
They're sitting on tons of awesome content, but for some inexplicable reason everything is saved for the perpetually delayed 'new site'. It's been like this since they announced it over half a year ago. Sean's instagram is loaded with previews, and they don't stop coming. Sadly we won't see it on the site for a long time. And it would seem some of Sean's shoot are done are done by Sean for Sean Nelson Photography, seemingly unaffiliated to, although using the same templates as, herbiceps

A thorough explanation is in order, team. Not these scattered replies whenever you feel like it.

Thank you

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Feb 21st, 2017 at 1:40pm
Is there a chance you could address this, Mike? We understand you've had a baby, but that doesn't change the fact you have loyal customers paying for a product for which they expect delivery.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Feb 21st, 2017 at 1:45pm
All of us have obligations in our lifes, for example a pay website has to offer a good service to the customers. We pay to get a product regularly not random updates every time with more days between it. >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Feb 21st, 2017 at 2:42pm
You must be kidding us Mike after so many days without updates and ignoring us you gave us THIS?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Feb 21st, 2017 at 2:59pm
More whining. Got to love it.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by duffman on Feb 21st, 2017 at 6:18pm
I don't know why you guys complain so much. Herbiceps is almost dead. In 2 or 3 months there will be no more updates at all. They are getting ready to launch the new website so it's clear that they save lots of material for the new site to attract many new members. Time to close this useless topic.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 21st, 2017 at 7:27pm
sorry, I dropped the ball the last couple of weeks a bit...I'm not saving anything for the new site...Sean posts samples from his shoots on his IG and on the HB IG and those don't have too much to do with the material I post on a daily basis...because there's a big lag on material being edited and compiled and then parsed out

we do have lots and lots of stuff ready to go, and have done just as much shooting or perhaps more than at any point in the history of her biceps in 2015 and 2016...thanks to Sean's dedication as well as the others that shoot for us...I, myself, have taken a step back from shooting because I'm old and have produced too many children lately :)

no excuses, updates will improve...but you guys are pretty harsh, a few of you, in terms of judging the material...HerBiceps has never only been about the biggest muscle girls...we showcase a wide variety of physiques from all divisions...and are proud of that

I routinely get feedback on our cam site, too, that we hardly have any big girls...and whenever I count them up, there's always a TON

today's update featured 10 different female bodybuilders and physique competitors 6 of which were IFBB WPD pros, as well as 4 figure competitors and 4 bikini competitors (one of which is one of the all-time male ass kicking wrestling session girls)....there were measurements, armwrestling, lift and carry, most muscular, and muscle control clips as well as leg clips and upper body training from the gym...out of the 18 photo/video pages updates, 12 featured material from 2016 and the other 6 featured material from 2015


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 21st, 2017 at 7:29pm

duffman wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 6:18pm:
I don't know why you guys complain so much. Herbiceps is almost dead. In 2 or 3 months there will be no more updates at all.


The new site will still be HerBiceps...the updates will just be on a much better/usable/modern platform and the updates will be more accessible than ever...and will be joined by material from other photographers who don't currently contribute to her biceps

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 21st, 2017 at 8:22pm

Mike wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 7:27pm:
sorry, I dropped the ball the last couple of weeks a bit...I'm not saving anything for the new site...Sean posts samples from his shoots on his IG and on the HB IG and those don't have too much to do with the material I post on a daily basis...because there's a big lag on material being edited and compiled and then parsed out

we do have lots and lots of stuff ready to go, and have done just as much shooting or perhaps more than at any point in the history of her biceps in 2015 and 2016...thanks to Sean's dedication as well as the others that shoot for us...I, myself, have taken a step back from shooting because I'm old and have produced too many children lately :)

no excuses, updates will improve...but you guys are pretty harsh, a few of you, in terms of judging the material...HerBiceps has never only been about the biggest muscle girls...we showcase a wide variety of physiques from all divisions...and are proud of that

I routinely get feedback on our cam site, too, that we hardly have any big girls...and whenever I count them up, there's always a TON

today's update featured 10 different female bodybuilders and physique competitors 6 of which were IFBB WPD pros, as well as 4 figure competitors and 4 bikini competitors (one of which is one of the all-time male ass kicking wrestling session girls)....there were measurements, armwrestling, lift and carry, most muscular, and muscle control clips as well as leg clips and upper body training from the gym...out of the 18 photo/video pages updates, 12 featured material from 2016 and the other 6 featured material from 2015


there are only 4 videos from 2016 in your latest update....

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by spin on Feb 21st, 2017 at 10:05pm

Kurtis Trent wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 8:22pm:
there are only 4 videos from 2016 in your latest update....

Kurtis, he didn't say that there were 12 clips. He said that, including both photo and video updates combined, there are 12 new updates.

I can't understand why there's suddenly been so many complaints. This site has existed at least 12 years. In that time, the both the frequency of updates and amount of content per update has remained pretty much consistent. You knew what you were buying into when you signed up. And it's always been a good value for what you're paying.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 5:02pm
There was actually 19 video clips from 2016 posted yesterday featuring Erica Blockman, Amber Roberson, Lauranda Nall and Diana Scnnaidt.  There were also 8-10 photo galleries from 2016.  And the rest of the update was stuff from the ancient time known as mid to late 2015. 

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:16pm
Hi Mike quick question,
are there more armwrestling Clips with erica blockmann from that Shooting with amber roberson??
Maybe against sean, another guy or another Girl:-)?

mav

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:39pm
That Question goes also to sean:-)!!

Whoever respond quickest!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:33pm
think that was it from that shoot

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 7:34pm
but maybe Amber arm wrestled somebody else at her other shoot that weekend...can't remember...maybe Sean does

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Feb 24th, 2017 at 11:49am
In the Strength Metal Clip are  the updates not showing!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Feb 24th, 2017 at 11:54am
Hey Mike and Sean,

after all the complaining from the last time, I would like to given you a big compliment about the latest armwrestling Clips:-)!1
The Solinda Hong vs. Sean Clip is outstanding, pretty awesome match:-)!1

Also the Melissa Pearo armwrestling her husband Clip is very swesome as well:-)!1
This intensity I would like to see :-)!
I know that not all the Girls would go out this way, but These are outstanding armwrestling matches:-)!!
Kepp it up!! 
Melissa pearo has to be very strong to make her huisband struggle against her!!??
Jacquita Taylor was also brave armwrestled her husband as well!! But in that case the size and strength difference was too huge!

mav

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Feb 24th, 2017 at 11:56am
And with complaining I mean some of the other users!!
Even though I understand them partly, but some of the members are very difficult to satisfy:-)!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 25th, 2017 at 8:42pm
great updates..i cannot believe that most of this videos are with women with BIG muscles, as Sheronica Henton (ruined measurements video, unfortunately), Michelle Cummings, Jennika Hill and Tonya Simpson (almost 2 years after their last videos!!)Nathalie Foreau and Mary Simmons armwrestling videos
what is the reason that you finally decide to post videos you shoot 2 years ago? and are you going to do this in the future?
you shoot Mary Simmons at Olympia 2015, yes?? but have not post even one video since...why, why, she is so beautiful!!
you don`t like her???
the videos wirh Sue Lasmar are absoluurely amazing!! but again...almost too years later??

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 26th, 2017 at 4:57am
I know you're just trolling me at this point, but I have no idea if you meant you liked the update or not.

And not sure if you know it, but most of those 2015 clips are from the later part of 2015...for example, the '15 Olympia was less than a year and a half ago.  Regardless, I've been pretty up front that although we do post some recent stuff that we have a lot of catching up to do...and about 18 months of stuff as our drag.

I'm assuming you want us to catch up, so that does involve editing the 2015 stuff asap and posting a lot of it.

Because we shoot so much and have a limited staff and because we care about quality, we've fallen behind.  The good news is that this past summer I hired a video editor to help us catch up.  The bad news is that it'll probably take us another year or two at this rate to bring the backlog down to 3-6 months instead of 12-24 months.

But then I just acquired a TON of old footage from a few other websites for the plus site, so we'll be posting a lot of that on there along with the new stuff.  So, I probably need to hire one more video editor at least part-time. 

Its a good problem to have, too much material. 

I do understand your opinion that you wish our backlog wasn't as big, but try and enjoy the material we post.  Its never before been posted/published.



Kurtis Trent wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 8:42pm:
great updates..i cannot believe that most of this videos are with women with BIG muscles, as Sheronica Henton (ruined measurements video, unfortunately), Michelle Cummings, Jennika Hill and Tonya Simpson (almost 2 years after their last videos!!)Nathalie Foreau and Mary Simmons armwrestling videos
what is the reason that you finally decide to post videos you shoot 2 years ago? and are you going to do this in the future?
you shoot Mary Simmons at Olympia 2015, yes?? but have not post even one video since...why, why, she is so beautiful!!
you don`t like her???
the videos wirh Sue Lasmar are absoluurely amazing!! but again...almost too years later??

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 26th, 2017 at 10:04am
Of course i like it, Mike, it was great update!!
Just....too big period after the shooting, that`s all
And wish to post AW, interview and measurements videos as the first after the shooting, then the posing ones, beacause this kind ogf videos
make Herbiceps unique!!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by butchers on Feb 26th, 2017 at 3:57pm
more armwrestling Clips

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 11:50am
Mike, are going to cover 2017 Arnold?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 9:52pm
I have a guy doing a couple shoots for us there, but we aren't sending our own people there this year

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Dr_Robert on Mar 3rd, 2017 at 6:34am
Isn't he the adulterer who knocked-up his house maid...?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Mar 3rd, 2017 at 11:09am
WTF are you talking about? Lol

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Dr_Robert on Mar 4th, 2017 at 6:09am
The adulterer somehow became the Governor (?) of CA & recently announced he's bailing out of a reality show due to lack of ratings. Hopefully these clues will help you identify who the "F" I'm talking about...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Mar 4th, 2017 at 7:59am
Oh I get it now, good follow up post

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Mar 4th, 2017 at 2:04pm
Hi Mike and Sean,

is there anything new coming here on the future herbiceps plus site with Sara Holda/Unicorn???
I mean is there material left, which havenīt been posted??
If not is anything planed with her in the future:-)?

mav

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Mar 5th, 2017 at 9:08pm
The HerBiceps shoots prob not, but we recently purchased all of the femflex and she wrestles content for the new plus site, so I'm sure there's a lot in there

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Mar 6th, 2017 at 7:06pm
Last update is amazing. Rename this topic to 'Update discussion' or something, to better fit the content.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Mar 6th, 2017 at 9:07pm
fixed now...thanks...apparently, I made two spelling errors and not one...as always, I"m the greatest


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Mar 8th, 2017 at 1:16pm
I open this topic to complaint about the lack of updates in the site but these days Herbiceps shut my mouth with a series of amazing athletes. I wish that this updates keep coming to enjoy the beauty of female muscle :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Mar 26th, 2017 at 6:57pm
It is about time fir a big Clips update!!!


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:04pm
I hope that this weekend we have a surprise with a big update of the site ::)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Jul 3rd, 2017 at 11:41am
Hey guys. Three weeks now since any photo updates. Not so bad for clips; just 1 1/2 weeks. Que pasa?†

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Jul 4th, 2017 at 5:09pm
*crickets chirping*

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jul 4th, 2017 at 11:41pm
big ones on the way...starting with today...was on a vacation for a long bit and didn't get things loaded up in time before I left...sorry

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Jul 5th, 2017 at 8:12am
great update!! but not even one  measurement video  :(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kinky Desires on Jul 5th, 2017 at 4:23pm
Woohoo massive update. Only one broken link this time too  ;D (Ashley Knight, there's a c missing from the word clips in the url!)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jul 28th, 2017 at 6:38pm
Again we suffer a random period of updates, I hope that soon the site is updated. :-[

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Jul 28th, 2017 at 11:27pm
Suggest you visit a spa at Banos for a nice soak while you wait (my keyboard doesn't allow for a tilde above the N).

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jul 29th, 2017 at 1:10am
Great idea, a weekend at BaŮos de Agua Santa :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Aug 21st, 2017 at 12:19am
I think is time for another update, it's a great way to close this week. :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Aug 21st, 2017 at 8:11pm
You may have missed the big clip update yesterday (Aug. 20), with 21 different models and three miscellaneous categories.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Aug 21st, 2017 at 8:38pm
Yes I think is the lag in certain ISP in Mexico because I got the update this morning. Great models!!! :D :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Aug 29th, 2017 at 1:10pm
I hope that the site is updated this week  :-[ :-[ :'(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Aug 29th, 2017 at 7:48pm
Also make sure this time. that a few armwrestling Clips are as well be in the update!!
Because in the last two updates there were None!!

Right now my only criticism is that every Video update you do should include a few armwrestling Clips:-)!!

Besides that the Quality of the site has rise again, especially the Quality of the armwrestling Clips itself is amazing:-)!! Keep up that Kind of work guys:-) (Sean and Mike)


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Sep 17th, 2017 at 1:31am
I think is time to upload a new update in the site. ;D ;D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Sep 17th, 2017 at 5:32pm
well, there's been the Olympia in Vegas, I guess guys are pretty busy and they'll be back with some epic material very soon

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Sep 27th, 2017 at 8:50am
awesome update
can someone tell me who is girl on Keisha Daniels videos? this one with rly red lips

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Sep 27th, 2017 at 9:45am
That's Heidi kutchner..she will be posted soon also

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Oct 30th, 2017 at 7:23pm
9 days for vids and two weeks for pics. any ETA on next update?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Oct 31st, 2017 at 12:31am
oops gonna have to post an absolute monster

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Nov 1st, 2017 at 1:46am
Still waiting the monster update!!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Nov 1st, 2017 at 3:45am

Ricardo wrote on Nov 1st, 2017 at 1:46am:
Still waiting the monster update!!!

Chill out man 🙈

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Nov 1st, 2017 at 8:56am
Yet a Huge Monster update, but your forgot the most important update mike!!
Where are the armwrestling update??

I do not like the Rotation style of updates where the armwrestling Clips come only in this Rotation cyclus! You once said to me that you have several hundred aw Clips always in stuck??!!
So why not making are always update in the armwrestling section always when you make an regular update!!


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Nov 1st, 2017 at 1:20pm
Arm wrestling clips aren't important to everybody. As for this great monster update, I'll be working on the vid clips for at least the next 10-12 days, since I'm not a big vid person. But it will be a most pleasant task.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Nov 2nd, 2017 at 2:15am
Thanks for the huuuuuuuge update.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 2nd, 2017 at 7:17pm
Amazing update, but why not any new model? :(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 6th, 2017 at 8:41pm
Man, why cant You post updates more recently but smaller? Again waitin 7 days, still nothing, and dont say anything about big update earlier becouse it came like 8 days without nothing

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Nov 7th, 2017 at 2:16pm
oresto: see my comment in Reply #152. I have just started to review the new clips. I guess I don't have the large amount of spare time that you seem to have to review everything in the first day it's up.

This site has been this way most of the time since I joined in 2002 or 2003. You get far more than your money's worth in any given month. I don't see a problem if it comes in big amounts rather than 1 video clip and/or one photo gallery per day.

Another thing you need to remember: this web site is going away in the not-so-distant future in favor of the new web site. I'd rather see the owners' time spent in getting the bugs out of the new site than in posting something here every day, or every 2-3 days.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 8th, 2017 at 6:34pm

6789shav wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 2:16pm:
oresto: see my comment in Reply #152. I have just started to review the new clips. I guess I don't have the large amount of spare time that you seem to have to review everything in the first day it's up.

This site has been this way most of the time since I joined in 2002 or 2003. You get far more than your money's worth in any given month. I don't see a problem if it comes in big amounts rather than 1 video clip and/or one photo gallery per day.

Another thing you need to remember: this web site is going away in the not-so-distant future in favor of the new web site. I'd rather see the owners' time spent in getting the bugs out of the new site than in posting something here every day, or every 2-3 days.


That's your opinion but still again 9 days without update...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Nov 8th, 2017 at 11:40pm
".........but still again, 9 days without update."    So?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Nov 9th, 2017 at 3:38am

6789shav wrote on Nov 8th, 2017 at 11:40pm:
".........but still again, 9 days without update."† † So?


So I guess he's expecting another huge update  :-? ;D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 9th, 2017 at 5:59am

xhero wrote on Nov 9th, 2017 at 3:38am:

6789shav wrote on Nov 8th, 2017 at 11:40pm:
".........but still again, 9 days without update."† † So?


So I guess he's expecting another huge update† :-? ;D


Yeah i he will be working on this next 12 days  ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 10th, 2017 at 4:05pm
11 FKIN DAYS, Mike still dont give a crappity smack to even write back here ...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Nov 12th, 2017 at 1:10am
I think that Herbiceps is the best site of female bodybuilders and for this reason I join the site. Each site has a system of updates and my only request is to make the same with the site and not a random update.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Nov 12th, 2017 at 3:14am
The lack of updates is a kind of trademark of herbiceps.com, they've never been regular, and when it happens then they comes with a huge update.
I guess (just my sensation, maybe I'm wrong) this is not gonna change even with the new upcoming website, the lack of updates maybe reflect the personality of who's behind the page, I guess organization is not their best thing and probably the way they need to work lead them to deal with updates the way it actually is.
I do not complain, I'm not an "heavy user", I'm totally fine with it becouse when they update the content is pretty good. I prefer a random update with outstanding quality better than a regular updates with poor quality, but that's just my 2 cents.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Nov 12th, 2017 at 1:23pm
xhero: you make good points. I disagree a little in that there have been regular updates in the past. Things are busy in "her biceps land" with the new web site in the mix. Mike did say a while back that he had hired another editor to try and speed things along.

Like you, I'm not a heavy user. I can't imagine that oresto has viewed every video and every photo on the site. Doing such is a worthy substitute while waiting for new updates. And oresto should learn to ask politely, as I do when I want something; as you do. Referring to "fkin" number of days and the owner doesn't give a "crappity smack" are not helpful comments for one's cause, which is updates.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 12th, 2017 at 4:36pm
I would Ask politely if i would get IT for free not if i pay for this

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Nov 12th, 2017 at 4:40pm
yep, well let's say that lack of updates are not unusual, but really is not a big point for me and yes, lately it's cool to surf the website with an ipad and sometimes I like to go back and watch some previous clips and I am surprised when I realized that I never watched some of them, but, anyway it's cool to watch them again. I never download videos so, it's pretty fine for me.

yes I agree too about being polite, even if i must confess I had some "verbal fight" with Mike about HBC, but good manners should be always the 1st rule.

last thing, I must confess I really appreciate that even the worst opinion and critics are never censured, honor to Mike and guys who do not hide what people think, that's probably the best thing about this forum.

btw....UPDATEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

;D ;D ;D ;D (just kidding)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 13th, 2017 at 8:36am
You know, no update is one thing, but totally ignorong members is another, Mike was online couple of time since i wrote for first time, but still he cannot even wirte back...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kevin S. on Nov 13th, 2017 at 1:01pm
No update November?  I hope not.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by cantthinkofaname on Nov 14th, 2017 at 9:52pm
It's been a great ride, but I'm letting my subscription run out.  Lack of updates and I'm beginning to think HB+ might never come out, and if it does I feel it will fall short of expectations.  I'm not angry, just realize the way economics works and it appears that HBC is a much larger source of revenue that requires less work.  I understand why:  Manually updating a website and traveling for shoots and all of the time spent editing probably just isn't worth it when you can just run HBC and let the money roll in.  I will re-evaluate once and if HB+ ever comes online.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Nov 14th, 2017 at 10:13pm
not gonna let my subscription run out b/c theres so much more content on this site than any other site out there but damn 2 weeks is a long time with no update.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Sean on Nov 15th, 2017 at 4:17am
I can assure you HB+ will come out and be something bigger than anything we have done before.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:04am

Sean wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 4:17am:
I can assure you HB+ will come out and be something bigger than anything we have done before.


yep. updates every 2 weeks  ;D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by smoke10010 on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:28am
With HB+.. based on what we're seeing all you're really doing is adding another product that we have to pay for or look to sign up for another product that we have to wait for updates for. That's assuming there's a price increase for the service.

Even as it is.. it's been a while. I'm happy to wait because life is busy but if I was sitting around waiting for an update I'd go crazy staring at the screen.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 15th, 2017 at 2:40pm
Awesome, pay for subscription in november, 0 updates...Mike still ignoring his members...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Nov 15th, 2017 at 3:40pm
well, honestly, no update in the month of Nov is not that cool  :o

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Nov 15th, 2017 at 4:31pm

smoke10010 wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:28am:
With HB+.. based on what we're seeing all you're really doing is adding another product that we have to pay for or look to sign up for another product that we have to wait for updates for. That's assuming there's a price increase for the service.


I don't want to give away too many spoilers, but when we launch HB+, you should expect that there will be NO additional cost to HB members. We can say to a 100% certainty that HB+ is going to be the best value of any female muscle paysite or publication in history.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 15th, 2017 at 4:50pm

Tre wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 4:31pm:

smoke10010 wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:28am:
With HB+.. based on what we're seeing all you're really doing is adding another product that we have to pay for or look to sign up for another product that we have to wait for updates for. That's assuming there's a price increase for the service.


I don't want to give away too many spoilers, but when we launch HB+, you should expect that there will be NO additional cost to HB members. We can say to a 100% certainty that HB+ is going to be the best value of any female muscle paysite or publication in history.


Man, we want updates not another shittalking " OMG HB+ will be do great, HB+ will be do fun" how can we believe if You even cant upload old site and keep ignoring your members ...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by duffman on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:19pm
Will all the herbiceps memberships automatically roll over into a herbicepsplus membership? And will the old herbiceps website be closed down once herbicepsplus is up?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:27pm

duffman wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
Will all the herbiceps memberships automatically roll over into a herbicepsplus membership? And will the old herbiceps website be closed down once herbicepsplus is up?

Your membership to HB+ will become your new all-access pass. It's like getting upgraded from the gold card to Platinum. :)† Once HB+ launches, we won't be updating the old HB anymore, but Plus members will have access to the HB (includes FF, SW, etc) archives, regardless of the archived URLs.

The mechanics of rolling over existing memberships will not be easy, but our goal is to make the process as seamless as possible.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:54pm

Tre wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:27pm:

duffman wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
Will all the herbiceps memberships automatically roll over into a herbicepsplus membership? And will the old herbiceps website be closed down once herbicepsplus is up?

Your membership to HB+ will become your new all-access pass. It's like getting upgraded from the gold card to Platinum. :)† Once HB+ launches, we won't be updating the old HB anymore, but Plus members will have access to the HB (includes FF, SW, etc) archives, regardless of the archived URLs.

The mechanics of rolling over existing memberships will not be easy, but our goal is to make the process as seamless as possible.


so should I get a HB+ membership or the HB one will just be updated to the new one?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Nov 15th, 2017 at 6:00pm

cantthinkofaname wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
It's been a great ride, but I'm letting my subscription run out.† Lack of updates and I'm beginning to think HB+ might never come out, and if it does I feel it will fall short of expectations.† I'm not angry, just realize the way economics works and it appears that HBC is a much larger source of revenue that requires less work.† I understand why:† Manually updating a website and traveling for shoots and all of the time spent editing probably just isn't worth it when you can just run HBC and let the money roll in.† I will re-evaluate once and if HB+ ever comes online.

We want customers to enjoy patronizing our business. One of our philosophies has always been that we do not want anyone to regret a purchase they've made from us. We want you to feel good about your spending here and to spend only what you want. Sure, we've had some "misses" in the past, but we'd like to think we have generally delivered an overall good product to the customers for many years. And even though our delivery windows have not always been ideal for every customer, the total quality and volume has always exceeded every other site in the market.†

We have a full-time team working around the clock on the following:

-shooting content for HB/HB+
-video editing for HB/HB+
-photo editing for HB/HB+
-content curation for all sites in the HB universe
-publishing for HB
-design & development for HB+
-programming and maintenance for HBC
-model management for HBC
-new model recruitment
-customer service

There's a lot more going as well (future tech, market research, aiding models with privacy protection, etc), but we're putting a lot of time and resources into trying to build something we hope customers, models, and visitors will continue to enjoy. The majority of our combined staff work to produce what you see on HB/HB+.† And when you include Mike's hours on that side, it's not even close. If all we cared about was HBC, we would not commit nearly that sort of manpower to HB/HB+.† ††

We're sad that you want to take a break right now, but appreciate your loyalty all these years and greatly appreciate the fact that you will give us an opportunity to earn your business in the future.†

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Nov 15th, 2017 at 6:01pm

xhero wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Tre wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:27pm:

duffman wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
Will all the herbiceps memberships automatically roll over into a herbicepsplus membership? And will the old herbiceps website be closed down once herbicepsplus is up?

Your membership to HB+ will become your new all-access pass. It's like getting upgraded from the gold card to Platinum. :)† Once HB+ launches, we won't be updating the old HB anymore, but Plus members will have access to the HB (includes FF, SW, etc) archives, regardless of the archived URLs.

The mechanics of rolling over existing memberships will not be easy, but our goal is to make the process as seamless as possible.


so should I get a HB+ membership or the HB one will just be updated to the new one?


HB+ will be all you need. :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 15th, 2017 at 6:03pm
Yeah great customer service, asking about update for 10 days, You keep yalking only about HB+ ...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Nov 15th, 2017 at 7:58pm
Oresto94a:  "we want updates, not another shittalking.......   Only "shit talking" around here is coming from oresto94a. What are you? 16 years old? You certainly sound that age.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 15th, 2017 at 10:18pm
I pay for service man, like we all do. More than 2 weeks without updates is far too long. Why i paid for november subscription? Just to wait and wait for update? Thats not cool bro when someone take your money and offer you nothing to exchange and even can't write back and say whats goin on (i saw Mike online couple of times, yet he still couldnt write even a word, just dont give a shit about people who paid for subcription and got nothing)

Thats why i mad about, and dont tell me about 16 years old, ive right to be angry, because i didnt get a product i paid for

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Nov 15th, 2017 at 11:00pm
Could you give us an estimate on when the next update should arrive? (Preferable with higher accuracy than regarding HB+ release.)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by duffman on Nov 15th, 2017 at 11:20pm
To all the guys who cannot wait for the next update: Just check out the instagram accounts of your favourite models. Many HB models have great IG accounts. Sean also does a pretty good job on IG: https://www.instagram.com/seannelsonphoto/

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 15th, 2017 at 11:33pm
Yeah, cos ig is full of long lengh video's....

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Nov 16th, 2017 at 12:15am

duffman wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 11:20pm:
To all the guys who cannot wait for the next update: Just check out the instagram accounts of your favourite models. Many HB models have great IG accounts. Sean also does a pretty good job on IG: https://www.instagram.com/seannelsonphoto/

Looking at that IG is like peering into an orbuculum because it shows you glimpses of HB(+) in the distant future. It's also free. I pay for access to this site.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Nov 16th, 2017 at 2:18pm
oresto: no one is forcing you to be a paying member here.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Nov 16th, 2017 at 2:46pm

6789shav wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
oresto: no one is forcing you to be a paying member here.


well, you might understand that after 16 days a paying member might feel a bit upset, instead of using sarcasm it would be nice to apologize for the delay and ensure members that the upcoming update will be huge. just my 2 cents† ::)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 16th, 2017 at 6:08pm

6789shav wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
oresto: no one is forcing you to be a paying member here.


Yeah noone forced me, but still i paid and still didnt get anything. crappity smack that, IT was really good time but same as some guys before me i let my subscription run out. I'm really disapointed how they treat me/us with 0 respect, Its like you order smth online, wait 3 days, 5, 10, 15 you try communciate with seller and he ignore, eventhough you messaged him ...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Nov 17th, 2017 at 7:40pm
Again a huge update but no armwrestling Clips again!!! :( :(
Why?????
And on the Lift and Carry, again just female female stuff!!

Sean you said when Girls Lifting guys, that makes the Girls uncomfortable!!??
Iīm sorry but that is ridicolous, hwy they Feeling that way when they Lifting a guy, I simply donīt understand it!!

I donīt care when there is a certain amount of time during the updates!! But why the second time didnīt post new armwrestling Clips???

Even if not every member like them, but I know and garantee that a lot of People like the armwrestling Clips!!
SO please post them more frequently!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 17th, 2017 at 9:33pm
This is a fair and accurate reflection of reality on the site.  The new site will be much more automated, with a different kind of updating system, and we have hired somebody to make sure the updates and other issues chug along full-time.  So when the site launches, the updates should come very regularly, ideally every few hours (more than even once a day). 


xhero wrote on Nov 12th, 2017 at 3:14am:
The lack of updates is a kind of trademark of herbiceps.com, they've never been regular, and when it happens then they comes with a huge update.
I guess (just my sensation, maybe I'm wrong) this is not gonna change even with the new upcoming website, the lack of updates maybe reflect the personality of who's behind the page, I guess organization is not their best thing and probably the way they need to work lead them to deal with updates the way it actually is.
I do not complain, I'm not an "heavy user", I'm totally fine with it becouse when they update the content is pretty good. I prefer a random update with outstanding quality better than a regular updates with poor quality, but that's just my 2 cents.


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 17th, 2017 at 9:35pm
Sorry for the radio silence, it may have been a bit negligent, but it wasn't particularly intentional...just because you see that "Mike" is logged in doesn't mean its actually me...I simply hadn't realized that there had been no updates in so long until Sean mentioned it to me the other day...I'm a forgetful sort


oresto94a wrote on Nov 13th, 2017 at 8:36am:
You know, no update is one thing, but totally ignorong members is another, Mike was online couple of time since i wrote for first time, but still he cannot even wirte back...


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 17th, 2017 at 9:38pm
I'm looking forward to earning back your business on HB+, but you should know that everybody will have a heck of a lot of access for FREE

membership will have its privileges and provide plenty of value, but you will be able to see most of the content on HB+ for free


cantthinkofaname wrote on Nov 14th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
It's been a great ride, but I'm letting my subscription run out.† Lack of updates and I'm beginning to think HB+ might never come out, and if it does I feel it will fall short of expectations.† I'm not angry, just realize the way economics works and it appears that HBC is a much larger source of revenue that requires less work.† I understand why:† Manually updating a website and traveling for shoots and all of the time spent editing probably just isn't worth it when you can just run HBC and let the money roll in.† I will re-evaluate once and if HB+ ever comes online.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 17th, 2017 at 9:41pm
Membership to HB+ will include access to HerBiceps.com archive site (this one), Femflex.com archive site and will include access to all free and regular material on HB+, discounts on VODs, commenting privileges, highest resolution and downloading option (vs streaming for free accounts), and more. 

The price will be equal to or less than the current HerBiceps membership



smoke10010 wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:28am:
With HB+.. based on what we're seeing all you're really doing is adding another product that we have to pay for or look to sign up for another product that we have to wait for updates for. That's assuming there's a price increase for the service.

Even as it is.. it's been a while. I'm happy to wait because life is busy but if I was sitting around waiting for an update I'd go crazy staring at the screen.


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 17th, 2017 at 9:46pm
I love the passion and desire for armwrestling and f/m lift and carry!  As always, we get as much done of that stuff as we can. I'll look for some to post within the next couple of updates.

Appreciate everybody's thoughts and complaints, and they are fair. 


mavri5 wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 7:40pm:
Again a huge update but no armwrestling Clips again!!! :( :(
Why?????
And on the Lift and Carry, again just female female stuff!!


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by duffman on Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:08pm
You say that most of the content on HB+ is free. Does that mean that everyone can see the pics and clips on HB+ without even registering to the site? What resolution do the clips and pics have for free users?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:44pm
News is good. Mike: you had mentioned before that the new HB+ would have the FemFlex archive. Did you purchase Tre's other site, SheWrestles dot com?   Thanks.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:55pm

Mike wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 9:33pm:
This is a fair and accurate reflection of reality on the site.† The new site will be much more automated, with a different kind of updating system, and we have hired somebody to make sure the updates and other issues chug along full-time.† So when the site launches, the updates should come very regularly, ideally every few hours (more than even once a day).†


xhero wrote on Nov 12th, 2017 at 3:14am:
The lack of updates is a kind of trademark of herbiceps.com, they've never been regular, and when it happens then they comes with a huge update.
I guess (just my sensation, maybe I'm wrong) this is not gonna change even with the new upcoming website, the lack of updates maybe reflect the personality of who's behind the page, I guess organization is not their best thing and probably the way they need to work lead them to deal with updates the way it actually is.
I do not complain, I'm not an "heavy user", I'm totally fine with it becouse when they update the content is pretty good. I prefer a random update with outstanding quality better than a regular updates with poor quality, but that's just my 2 cents.


This is cool to know, thank you for your reply Mike 👍🏻

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:01am
Great update, I think that soon you launch HB+ my question is if I have a long term membership (6 months) of HB and you migrate to HB+ my membership will change to HB+?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 18th, 2017 at 6:34am
Registration will be required, and whether you are a paying member or not, you will retain your account access.  Paying the membership will Jane benefits as I outlined in my post, but free members will be able to access most of the pictures on the site, and at least half of the video content, albeit not in the highest resolution.  Free members will also be able to favorite photos, videos, models and more and create their own personal news feed or alerts when a favorite modelís page or content is updated.  Stuff like that


duffman wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:08pm:
You say that most of the content on HB+ is free. Does that mean that everyone can see the pics and clips on HB+ without even registering to the site? What resolution do the clips and pics have for free users?


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 18th, 2017 at 6:36am
Yes, but itís more of a partnership than a purchase.

It might take a bit to load some of the wrestling content on the site, but much will eventually be available to both free and paying members.


6789shav wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:44pm:
News is good. Mike: you had mentioned before that the new HB+ would have the FemFlex archive. Did you purchase Tre's other site, SheWrestles dot com?† †Thanks.


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 18th, 2017 at 6:37am
All HB members will have access to HB+ members privileged but not sure on exactly how it will work as to whether you may need to re-register.  Iíll let you know when the time comes.


Ricardo wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:01am:
Great update, I think that soon you launch HB+ my question is if I have a long term membership (6 months) of HB and you migrate to HB+ my membership will change to HB+?


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 18th, 2017 at 7:43am
Huge update again but it look like you did update just we shut out mouth about no update, almost all content 15-16 few vids from 17 and again no new models :(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Nov 18th, 2017 at 7:45am
and not even one measurement and AW video....

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Nov 18th, 2017 at 12:19pm

Mike wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 9:46pm:
I love the passion and desire for armwrestling and f/m lift and carry!† As always, we get as much done of that stuff as we can. I'll look for some to post within the next couple of updates.

Appreciate everybody's thoughts and complaints, and they are fair.†


mavri5 wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 7:40pm:
Again a huge update but no armwrestling Clips again!!! :( :(
Why?????
And on the Lift and Carry, again just female female stuff!!


But mike please consider it was Long time without aw updates!!
If you post aw Clips 5-6 at once  new ones would be more than fair!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Nov 19th, 2017 at 7:35am

Mike wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 9:46pm:
I love the passion and desire for armwrestling and f/m lift and carry!† As always, we get as much done of that stuff as we can. I'll look for some to post within the next couple of updates.

Appreciate everybody's thoughts and complaints, and they are fair.†


mavri5 wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 7:40pm:
Again a huge update but no armwrestling Clips again!!! :( :(
Why?????
And on the Lift and Carry, again just female female stuff!!


Again an update stilll no aw update!! Mike do you intend to keep the words   you already said???

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 19th, 2017 at 7:55am
I donít have any to post quite yet, my friend...but will get some in the works next chance I get (likely post TDay week)




Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Nov 19th, 2017 at 3:46pm
You donīt have any to post yet!!?? You once said to me you always have several hundred in stuck???!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 19th, 2017 at 4:15pm
We do have lots that have been shot and haven't been posted yet, but I don't have any on my ready to post sheet at the moment on my laptop

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 19th, 2017 at 6:13pm
Do ya have some new models ready to post?  :P

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 19th, 2017 at 11:36pm

Jessie P, Mandy S and Destinee B for example were all models we shot this summer for the first time

next batch of content I get to doing should have another new batch of models...is there somebody in particular you are waiting to see that you've seen in the previews?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Nov 20th, 2017 at 12:54am
Corinne M, Ashlee P, Marcia G, Dallas McC, Eleonora, Aspen, Lindsay C-S, Jessica R P, Adela O.

All in favor of all said women in the next update, say aye!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 20th, 2017 at 1:56am

Mike wrote on Nov 19th, 2017 at 11:36pm:
Jessie P, Mandy S and Destinee B for example were all models we shot this summer for the first time

next batch of content I get to doing should have another new batch of models...is there somebody in particular you are waiting to see that you've seen in the previews?


Kał Sheppard, shes the only one im wating so hard!!!! I'm Nadia Amy :p

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:51am
all coming in the next couple of months, but none of which will be posted for at least a week or so until after the T-Day break

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:21am

Mike wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 2:51am:
all coming in the next couple of months, but none of which will be posted for at least a week or so until after the T-Day break


You said same when i asked about Nadia Amy like year ago... And still no vids with her

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:42am
not sure who Nadia Amy is...do you mean Nadia Ahmed? started posting her stuff for awhile

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:42am
http://www.herbiceps.com/menu/videoclippics/nadiaahmedpics.shtml

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:45am

Mike wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:42am:
http://www.herbiceps.com/menu/videoclippics/nadiaahmedpics.shtml


sry i know her from her ig account. I asked about videos not photos, your told me like year ago her vids would be posted june/july 2017, its november :P

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:00am
I usually specifically do not promise to post particular videos like that because its a bit out of my control.  I apologize if I made that mistake in this instance.  We've got hundreds of shoots from 2017 to process and a lot of variables in play, so I really never know.  I don't believe any of her video has been edited yet.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:11am

Mike wrote on Nov 20th, 2017 at 5:00am:
I usually specifically do not promise to post particular videos like that because its a bit out of my control.† I apologize if I made that mistake in this instance.† We've got hundreds of shoots from 2017 to process and a lot of variables in play, so I really never know.† I don't believe any of her video has been edited yet.


Ok mate, just pls try to be fast with editing Kal Sheppar ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kinky Desires on Nov 20th, 2017 at 7:14pm
Are there any more videos with Tanya Hyde coming up? You posted her doing a grip strength test back in March and I'm really hoping to see more of her. In fact I'm really really hoping she did a metal planks bending test?

Such a shame that she decided to take down her own fitness website so that she could concentrate on her more adult orientated pursuits, clearly her other site was making her more money for obvious reasons, but I do miss her fitness site† :'(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Nov 21st, 2017 at 3:53am
She did a good amount of shooting with us this past year, so yeah you should be expecting to see more of her stuff on the site in 2018...canít recall if metal planks were part of it

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Nov 29th, 2017 at 11:34pm
just letting you know it's been a week

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 1:43am

bombomper wrote on Nov 29th, 2017 at 11:34pm:
just letting you know it's been a week


Haha You think someone cares about this   :o

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 8:27am
well, honestly November has not been the richest month in herbiceps life, hopefully Santa will be more generous :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 9:27pm

xhero wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 8:27am:
well, honestly November has not been the richest month in herbiceps life, hopefully Santa will be more generous :)


3 uodates, one big, one normal, one small, this site is now definetely not worth money... But dont worry someone will start talking how awesome will new site be in 3 2 1 ....

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:35pm
Great update for December 2. Thanks guys.

"don't worry, someone will start talking how awesome......"  Actually, someone can start talking about how much of a dumb dumb oresto94a is.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 11:22pm

6789shav wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:35pm:
Great update for December 2. Thanks guys.

"don't worry, someone will start talking how awesome......"† Actually, someone can start talking about how much of a dumb dumb oresto94a is.


yeye lick Mikes ass more ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Dec 4th, 2017 at 10:01am
The fifth update without armwrestling clips... :(
Probably not the same for everyone, but i'm mainly interested in armwrestling clips (i'm quite sure that many people loves them also!)
So i have to agree the last >6 weeks were indeed a little disappointing.
(I also can't find the new clips from Macey Toney from 12.2.17)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Dec 4th, 2017 at 10:03am

Femalebicepsfan wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 10:01am:
The fifth update without armwrestling clips... :(
Probably not the same for everyone, but i'm mainly interested in armwrestling clips (i'm quite sure i'm not the only one that loves armwrestling clips ;) )
So i have to agree the last >6 weeks were indeed a little disappointing.
(I also can't find the new clips from Macey Toney from 12.2.17)


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Dec 4th, 2017 at 3:19pm
I Support that Post 100 %
Iīm too most interested in armwrestling Clips!!
It is indeed very disappointing!!

For the Herbiceps Plus Site sean and mike make sure that there will be at least weekly aw updates!!#
Otherwise it is way to less !!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Dec 4th, 2017 at 4:17pm
oresto94a:  wake me up when you learn how to write using proper grammar and correct spelling.

mavri5: perhaps you might be more happy with the Mixed Wrestling Forum.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Dec 4th, 2017 at 4:30pm
Mixed Wrestling is not the same as armwrestling bro!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Dec 4th, 2017 at 4:33pm
I have the same right to bring out my complains as you do!!
I was not insulting anyone, but I have the right say my opinion!!


And when Iīm saying that there are to less armwrestling Clips updates at the Moment, so you didnīt have to agree with me but you have to accept the fact , it is bothering me!!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Dec 4th, 2017 at 7:03pm

6789shav wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 4:17pm:
oresto94a:† wake me up when you learn how to write using proper grammar and correct spelling.

mavri5: perhaps you might be more happy with the Mixed Wrestling Forum.


You know not for everyone at this forum english is first language? But what should i expect from guy who would eat crap if if says "herbiceps Mike <3 2017" on IT.
And see Mavri? This is what i was talking about, You asked for armwrestling clip like for month, and what? They dont care sooo much about members.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 4th, 2017 at 7:43pm
we haven't had any armwrestling clips in the hopper the last few updates, but should have some going up this week/next for sure

guys, lets keep it cordial here....oresto has a right to voice his opinions


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:39pm

Mike wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 7:43pm:
we haven't had any armwrestling clips in the hopper the last few updates, but should have some going up this week/next for sure

guys, lets keep it cordial here....oresto has a right to voice his opinions


Dont worry its my last week here

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by spin on Dec 5th, 2017 at 12:14am

oresto94a wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

Mike wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 7:43pm:
we haven't had any armwrestling clips in the hopper the last few updates, but should have some going up this week/next for sure

guys, lets keep it cordial here....oresto has a right to voice his opinions
i

Dont worry its my last week here

Now Iím intrigued. Obviously you have the right to leave. But where else are you going to find the quality of content that you get here (including armwrestling clips with a little bit of patience) at the price that this site gives you? Other sites have tried, but none have been overly successful.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Dec 5th, 2017 at 12:27am

spin wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 12:14am:

oresto94a wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 8:39pm:

Mike wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 7:43pm:
we haven't had any armwrestling clips in the hopper the last few updates, but should have some going up this week/next for sure

guys, lets keep it cordial here....oresto has a right to voice his opinions
i

Dont worry its my last week here

Now Iím intrigued. Obviously you have the right to leave. But where else are you going to find the quality of content that you get here (including armwrestling clips with a little bit of patience) at the price that this site gives you? Other sites have tried, but none have been overly successful.


Im member for like 4-5 years, but im done being crappity smack so hard. Much better to log in this site like for every 3-4 months then download every video, than paying every month and get 3 updates, be ignored by admins and keep listening that new site will be awesome but constantly hear that release date is late. I know other site not so good but first sites like hdpsyhique or muscleangels dont upload so many vids, but all vids are recently, not like here half of update is 2015, 1/4 2016 and rest 2017, they upload always fresh stuff. Second they try to upload like everyday/ every 3-4 days, not so much vids but they do it often, not like here, 3 update in november and i expect like the same in december

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Dec 5th, 2017 at 4:08am

Mike wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 7:43pm:
we haven't had any armwrestling clips in the hopper the last few updates, but should have some going up this week/next for sure

guys, lets keep it cordial here....oresto has a right to voice his opinions


You haveīt any armwrestling Clips in the hopper????
How can that be, when you told me that you always have several hundred in stuck???!!

It is an obvious fact here, that Iīm not the only one loving aw Clips !! So if you donīt have aw Clips in the hopper, I would suggerst that you do something about that!!!
You said you have some aw Clips coming, are you freaking kidding me????
Why you Holding back These Clips that much?????

Many members here prefer those Clips as I was saying, so is it not logic that you make the armwrestling Clips an priority to editing so you can upload them faster????


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Dec 5th, 2017 at 4:13am

mavri5 wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 4:08am:

Mike wrote on Dec 4th, 2017 at 7:43pm:
we haven't had any armwrestling clips in the hopper the last few updates, but should have some going up this week/next for sure

guys, lets keep it cordial here....oresto has a right to voice his opinions


You haveīt any armwrestling Clips in the hopper????
How can that be, when you told me that you always have several hundred in stuck???!!

It is an obvious fact here, that Iīm not the only one loving aw Clips !! So if you donīt have aw Clips in the hopper, I would suggerst that you do something about that!!!
You said you have some aw Clips coming, are you freaking kidding me????
Why you Holding back These Clips that much?????

Many members here prefer those Clips as I was saying, so is it not logic that you make the armwrestling Clips an priority to editing so you can upload them faster????


You will see some aw clips in January :D :D :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 5th, 2017 at 7:13am
We have many Armwrestling videos and several hundred shoots in the backlog. By ďhopperĒ, I meant ready to post.  I have approved some edits today including some AW...waiting on the renders, then uploading, then the link code...itís a process. Thatís why I said later this week or in a week or so. 

As for never posted video from 2015 and 2016 being posted, I donít see the issue. Itís new and never published.  And most of the time,itís the girl in her best shape.  If i could release HD video never published of any all time great muscle girl, even if it was from 10 years ago, Iíd be thrilled to do so.

By all means, join every so often and download all the clip of you like.  Thatís a great way of price discriminating your experience to maximize your value.  On the new site, youíll be able to enjoy content regularly without having to keep your paid membership active, so you will be able to turn that on or off as often as you wish, but will be able to keep your account info, favorites, preferences, library, etc etc.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Dec 5th, 2017 at 7:20am

Mike wrote on Dec 5th, 2017 at 7:13am:
And most of the time,itís the girl in her best shape.†


Have you seen Kristina Nicole actuall shape, when you post her videos? Even on HBC ? :D :D :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Dec 14th, 2017 at 3:54am
just checking in and letting you guys know it's been a week!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by failsafe on Dec 15th, 2017 at 3:36am
Mike, any chance on new videos from Lindsey Cope anytime soon? Sean teased it on his instagram story the other day.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 15th, 2017 at 8:15am
funny you should ask, check the update I just posted

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Dec 16th, 2017 at 11:44am
In Lindsey Cope interview you mentioned Super League, are you going to shoot there, guys?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Dec 21st, 2017 at 1:55pm
Need some new photo galleries. Thanks.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by autechre on Dec 22nd, 2017 at 4:51am

Kurtis Trent wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 11:44am:
In Lindsey Cope interview you mentioned Super League, are you going to shoot there, guys?


The Superleague show was the same weekend as the Olympia, IIRC. Hopefully HB managed to cover both  ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Sean on Dec 22nd, 2017 at 1:51pm
I barely had enough time to book Olympian athletes alone.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Sean on Dec 22nd, 2017 at 1:53pm
She ended up not doing the super league. Hopefully next year she will give it a go.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Dec 23rd, 2017 at 6:17pm
All the latest photo links point to empty nullsites.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Dec 23rd, 2017 at 6:33pm
It also appears; at least for Jacklyn Abrams and Rachel Scorpio; that all other uploaded galleries of the models have vanished.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 23rd, 2017 at 6:56pm
Yeah I tried to do it from the plane and the ftp program sucked...will have to fix when I get home...still in the air...luckily I did the video update from the ground

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Dec 24th, 2017 at 2:07pm
Thanks Mike. And Merry Christmas to you, your family, and all the staff at Eckstut Media.

Title: Broken links
Post by Ricardo on Jan 8th, 2018 at 2:30am
Hi,

Thanks for the last update but can you check the videos of Ashley Potts (duplicated) and some links in the photo section are broken. ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by autechre on Jan 8th, 2018 at 4:38am
Thanks for the regular updates (& fixing the Caroline Gaume link).

A couple of issues with the 1.7.18 updates:
Karla Rodriguez - Muscle Shots clip is duped from previous update
Ashley Potts - all 4 clips are duped from previous update

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 8th, 2018 at 8:06am
ah thanks, I'll fix next time I update :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jan 28th, 2018 at 2:15am
I think its time for an update!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Jan 30th, 2018 at 7:41am

Ricardo wrote on Jan 28th, 2018 at 2:15am:
I think its time for an update!!


11 days and counting.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by duffman on Jan 30th, 2018 at 6:14pm
Maybe there will be no more update because the new website is coming.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:25pm
Mike
Last Online: Today at 5:27pm

Sean
Last Online: Today at 5:31pm

Please do address your customers' concerns.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:31pm

bombomper wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 6:25pm:
Mike
Last Online: Today at 5:27pm

Sean
Last Online: Today at 5:31pm

Please do address your customers' concerns.


Haven't you still not learned that they don't give a fuk about their members? There plenty similar sites, when you pay same money but you have regular updates, and videos like 4-5 min, not 50 sec XD you know, Mike can update videos on HBC cos its MONEY, but who cares about you? You paid for this month, and he doesnt care if you get 2 updates or 5. Fuk this site

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Jan 31st, 2018 at 7:14pm
I guess we have to throw a shit fit to get their attention. 12 days and counting.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 31st, 2018 at 11:20pm
sorry, guys...usual story...I deserve the grumpiness...can't wait for the new site so that updates will be automated...in the meantime, enjoy today's update and I'll try to make up for the lost time by killing you with content...old and new

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:23am
I appreciate your response and situation, Mike. Please keep us posted, at least one in a while.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 1st, 2018 at 5:10am
Iíd always much rather just post an update and a good one than post that Iíll do one soon

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Feb 1st, 2018 at 8:51am

bombomper wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 1:23am:
I appreciate your response and situation, Mike. Please keep us posted, at least one in a while.


Agreed, waiting for content isn't as bad when you atleast know when to expect it.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by chipperpip on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:05am
I only mention this in case it prevented different planned videos from being posted, but in some of the recent updates on Karla Rodriguez's page, the videos "Rear View Spectacular" and "Muscle Shots" were reposts† (http://www.herbiceps.com/menu/videoclippics/karlarodriguezclips.shtml)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by autechre on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:29am

chipperpip wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:05am:
I only mention this in case it prevented different planned videos from being posted, but in some of the recent updates on Karla Rodriguez's page, the videos "Rear View Spectacular" and "Muscle Shots" were reposts† (http://www.herbiceps.com/menu/videoclippics/karlarodriguezclips.shtml)


And the Melanie Horton metal planks was a dupe from 12.17.17

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by autechre on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:50pm
The Norma Goh 2.1.18 updates are dupes from 12.16.17  ::)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Feb 11th, 2018 at 1:50am
Expecting a great video update this weekend before Carnival :D :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Feb 15th, 2018 at 12:46pm
Still expecting a great video update :-[ :-[

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 16th, 2018 at 11:38am
[quote author=3E293C2F7E7C7D7C4C0 link=1480623786/276#276 date=1518698772]Still expecting a great video update :-[ :-[/quote]

they are busy, because of the regular updates of their VOD
website
https://www.herbicepscam.com/vod/


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Feb 16th, 2018 at 2:39pm
Eight new clips uploaded on the 11th. 17 new photo galleries on the 9th. Appears to be plenty of updates in the past week.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Mar 5th, 2018 at 12:30am
High time for an update? Corinne and/or Marcia vids welcome!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Mar 5th, 2018 at 4:33am
Should be some beefy updates this week

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Mar 7th, 2018 at 7:42pm
Wow those "beefy" updates xddddd

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Mar 8th, 2018 at 1:59pm
As we're nearing the end of the week, will there be an update?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Mar 9th, 2018 at 9:19pm

bombomper wrote on Mar 8th, 2018 at 1:59pm:
As we're nearing the end of the week, will there be an update?


yeah Mike and keeping up promises about updates or site XD 2 diffrent things, like black and white or dark and light :D this guy doesnt care about his customersa. Almost 2 weeks with no updates? Thats fine. 3 updates in February? Also fine XD

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Mar 9th, 2018 at 9:42pm
but they don`t forget to regulary update
their VOD† website with incredible videos...

https://www.herbicepscam.com/vod/

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Mar 11th, 2018 at 12:57pm
oresto94a wrote:  "this guy doesn't care about his customers."  Then why are you here?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by blacksunshine on Mar 18th, 2018 at 2:59am
You guys should look at it this way. As an example..... I am also a member of krivsstudio. He does a single model update once every 2-3 days with a max of 5 videos or a set of pics. If mike did it that way† we would get that massive vid load we had through out a 52 day span. Now since we get a boat load of vids every week or two. This is perfectly reasonable. I have no issues waiting.

As a fellow editor of media, things take time.† especialy when there is a large amount of it. Add the days your out shooting video or photography, plus site updates (and the new site) and don't forget travel time, and personal life. The fact we get such a huge haul of video/photo all the time is awesome.

Yes i wish it were more frequent, but who am I to tell someone how to do their job, especially when they are established enough where their lives are constantly go go go.†

I, for one, appreciate the effort that gets put into this site. The videos/photos are top notch in content, and quality.

Give these guys a break,† and enjoy it for what it is.† If you can't wait. There are many other sites to quench your thirst until the next update comes.

Thanks Mike for all the great work and effort you, and your team put into this. I've been here a long time,† and never had an issue.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Mar 19th, 2018 at 5:39pm
blacksunshine: your comments are well thought out and very appropriate.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Mar 20th, 2018 at 5:59pm
10 days? Xd

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Mar 27th, 2018 at 7:40pm
And another week again :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Mar 28th, 2018 at 6:50pm
Will there be a drought through Easter?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Mar 30th, 2018 at 3:47pm
10 days? 2 updates in march?  Photos not updated for 18 days? Welcome to HB where You pay for nothing xd You are fkin robber Mike

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Mar 30th, 2018 at 9:50pm

oresto94a wrote on Mar 30th, 2018 at 3:47pm:
10 days? 2 updates in march?† Photos not updated for 18 days? Welcome to HB where You pay for nothing xd You are fkin robber Mike


like it or not you'll notice that vids on demand are constantly getting uploaded and they are looking pretty hot, I guess that's the direction the site is goin.
you got the biggest power, you can simply not renew your membership.
I personally don't like that much the cam show, but in the VOD section there's some amazing vids, damn hot too.
I would give a chance if I was you.
Gotta be honest, the lack of update on the main site is a bit disappointing, it sounds a bit confusing toward members; but I do believe is part of the process of the renew of the whole HB world.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Mar 30th, 2018 at 10:00pm
Why should they care about members who pay 14$ per months if they got like (i assume this looking how much ppl are in premium, fantasy or 1by1 chat) 500 bucks per day? Also they have time to uplaod new long vids on VOD but they dont give a shit to answer here or try to upload smth on main site. FKIN 2 updates per month, good lord -.-

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Mar 31st, 2018 at 2:52am
oresto94a:  if you really don't like it here, why don't you just leave? And don't let the door hit you in the rear on your way out.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Mar 31st, 2018 at 3:25pm
Its not only about updates frequently, but we keep asking for models, and still they dont care, Kalli S, Nadia Ahmed, Corinne Mechan, Amanda Smith, at least one time someone ask for their vids, but Mike would rather update models like Kelle Penzakis or any models like that without any muscles...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Mar 31st, 2018 at 3:51pm
I'd give them a chance as it's possible this is all a side effect of the change over to HB+, but I agree it's a little saddening to see the main site be neglected.

Wouldn't mind paying for a lot more VODs as that content is brilliant but at the moment how pricey they are and the fact you can't just purchase them individually turns me off.

But please give us some more videos beyond simple flexing on the main site! So many awesome strength challenges on VOD and yet the armwrestling section of the main site has barely been updated since last year!† :(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Mar 31st, 2018 at 11:08pm
March 31 clip update is loaded!† Darrian Tissenbaum is incredibly hot. Then there is Kelsey, Brittni, the rest.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Apr 1st, 2018 at 12:01am
no new models, update made so we dont complain.... shitty update

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by autechre on Apr 1st, 2018 at 3:39am
Only issue i've found, the Strength Test clips are dupes from 1.31.18

edit: and the lighting on the Lindsay Cope clips is truly awful.  :-[

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Apr 1st, 2018 at 10:41am

Plop13 wrote on Mar 31st, 2018 at 3:51pm:
Wouldn't mind paying for a lot more VODs as that content is brilliant but at the moment how pricey they are and the fact you can't just purchase them individually turns me off.


Thank you so much for the kind words about our VOD offerings.

With respect to pricing, we believe that most everything in our catalog is priced at or below general market price for similar content.† Yes, some of the specialty content does demand a higher price, but we're putting a lot into getting each video to the store and are constantly updating our knowledge database with respect to what customers are telling us.†

It is our hope that users would visit the site and then want to buy multiple products and with the current VIP discount of 25% (VIPs of HBC, that is), for us it seems like an easy decision from a value perspective.† BUT, if you know that you will buy one and only one VOD, just email us and we will be happy to refund the difference of your $25 credit purchase to you*.†

NOTE: This is a one-time offer for the would-be VOD customer who is not already a VIP member at HBC.†

If your intention is to spend only $10-15 on the VODs you really want, we do not want you feeling like we tricked or forced you into having to pay $25 just to get it.† That's not how we operate.† Additionally, if you'd like to send us a payment by mail for single VODs, we will gladly accommodate that as well.† Just email us at help@herbicepscam.com if you would prefer to pay by a different method.†

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Entropia3D on Apr 1st, 2018 at 11:34am
I once spent 25 $ for VOD, and I guess I will never again.
I was in 80% disapointed. Deciding on 2-4 small bad quality preview pics which vids to buy is a pain.
Some vids didn't really show what the pics expected, then some vids were bad quality and the best, there are vids from the main site so I had dups.
It's not possible from this tiny bad preview pics to see if it's a vid from a session that was on the main site, or an additional vid from that session. You should really mark these vids so that main site subcribers don't feel fooled.
And I think, presenting these VOD vids much better will make better sales.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Apr 1st, 2018 at 1:15pm
Please make VOD downloadable!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Apr 1st, 2018 at 2:06pm
Just right click mouse and "save as"

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Apr 1st, 2018 at 4:17pm
[quote author=7C717C6D737F79777D7C7B7F706D1E0 link=1480623786/299#299 date=1522550395]Only issue i've found, the Strength Test clips are dupes from 1.31.18

edit: and the lighting on the Lindsay Cope clips is truly awful.† :-[/quote]

I agree about the dark videos, nice try but it's frustrating you can't see every single line in her unreal muscles, I guess just uploading videos might be boring and a bit of artwork can give some breath to creativity but yep, definitely not a good one, at least to my eyes.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Apr 1st, 2018 at 4:23pm

Entropia3D wrote on Apr 1st, 2018 at 11:34am:
I once spent 25 $ for VOD, and I guess I will never again.
I was in 80% disapointed. Deciding on 2-4 small bad quality preview pics which vids to buy is a pain.
Some vids didn't really show what the pics expected, then some vids were bad quality and the best, there are vids from the main site so I had dups.
It's not possible from this tiny bad preview pics to see if it's a vid from a session that was on the main site, or an additional vid from that session. You should really mark these vids so that main site subcribers don't feel fooled.
And I think, presenting these VOD vids much better will make better sales.


That's another thing that could be drastically improved.
Preview is definitely poor and does not give clue enough about what you should expect, there's few videos I'm pretty much disappointed about, feeling like money lost - without any offense toward the involved models - I would have definitely purchased other videos of there were more details.
Again I am pretty sure it's a† work in progress for HB guys, so if you are reading this please improve this feature,thank you.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Apr 1st, 2018 at 11:42pm
you guys are tough...video companies have been charging 15-75 dollars for crappy videos for decades and you give us shit for charging 4-10 dollars for some good, some ok, some great content

updates on HB have been very inconsistent, and I apologize for that...I am looking forward to the easier process on the new site, but its still a work in progress

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 12:28pm

Tre wrote on Apr 1st, 2018 at 10:41am:
It is our hope that users would visit the site and then want to buy multiple products and with the current VIP discount of 25% (VIPs of HBC, that is), for us it seems like an easy decision from a value perspective.† BUT, if you know that you will buy one and only one VOD, just email us and we will be happy to refund the difference of your $25 credit purchase to you*.†

NOTE: This is a one-time offer for the would-be VOD customer who is not already a VIP member at HBC.†

If your intention is to spend only $10-15 on the VODs you really want, we do not want you feeling like we tricked or forced you into having to pay $25 just to get it.† That's not how we operate.† Additionally, if you'd like to send us a payment by mail for single VODs, we will gladly accommodate that as well.† Just email us at help@herbicepscam.com if you would prefer to pay by a different method.†

I'm totally not interested in Cam sessions, so VIP at HBC is not really interesting for me. A discount for herbiceps members would also be welcome ;)
The credit thing may be a common thing and acceptable for the Cam part. For the VOD part I really hope that some time in the future it will be possible to directly (credit card, paypal, whatever) purchase clips without having to ask for refunds or ask to buy by email. But nice to hear that you offer this things† anyway.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Entropia3D on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 3:28pm

Mike wrote on Apr 1st, 2018 at 11:42pm:
you guys are tough...video companies have been charging 15-75 dollars for crappy videos for decades and you give us shit for charging 4-10 dollars for some good, some ok, some great content


Who said we bought crappy expensive bad presentation vids on other sites? Maybe there was just no forum to complain  ;)
And, c'mon, you still take about 1 dollar per minute.
And, who complained about the price? It's other things that could be improved.  How about taking it as suggestions, not as attack?  :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Apr 4th, 2018 at 6:03pm

Femalebicepsfan wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 12:28pm:
I'm totally not interested in Cam sessions, so VIP at HBC is not really interesting for me. A discount for herbiceps members would also be welcome ;)

You can purchase the VIP membership and then you're entitled to the full VOD discount, even if you never use the webcam service at all.† Those who have followed the HB+ saga on the forum at all may be aware that we are significantly behind schedule on the planned launch of the new site and accompanying VOD platform. So since we already had an operational platform for long-form videos, we responded to customer demand (most customers preferred to have access to videos now rather than wait for a service launch that has had so many unexpected delays) and began loading our new videos into the store at HBC.†


Quote:
The credit thing may be a common thing and acceptable for the Cam part. For the VOD part I really hope that some time in the future it will be possible to directly (credit card, paypal, whatever) purchase clips without having to ask for refunds or ask to buy by email. But nice to hear that you offer this things† anyway.

We appreciate that the current setup is not ideal for every single user and would-be VOD customer, but we believe it to be a very reasonable compromise.† Anyone wishing to purchase a single clip from the VOD store at HBC should email us and we can discuss arrangements.†

Note: Even though one is not required to visit or spend money in any of the webcam rooms, in order to access the purchase links for the VODs, an HBC membership is required.† And of course, in order to get the VIP discount, an HBC membership is required.†

In addition to providing top-quality content to our customers and fans, we endeavor to make it as simple as possible for you to access and enjoy.† Thank you for the feedback and for your longtime support of the site. I hope that we will soon be able to deliver more of what you're looking for in a VOD service.†


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Apr 4th, 2018 at 6:33pm

Entropia3D wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 3:28pm:
Who said we bought crappy expensive bad presentation vids on other sites? Maybe there was just no forum to complain† ;)
And, c'mon, you still take about 1 dollar per minute.

The brand-new Ashley Losee vid, "Muscle Domination", is 15 minutes long and the full retail is 75 credits.† That's 50 cents/minute.†

If you're a VIP, then the price is only 56 credits.† That's 37 cents/minute.†

If you're a VIP who made a $250 credit purchase, then with your deposit bonus, the price would be about $4.99, which works out to about 33 cents/minute.

This is a video that features a high-quality model in near-contest condition, and also has armwrestling, muscle comparisons, lift-and-carry, solid muscle talk, and incredible flexing.† In 2007, this same video would have retailed for $19.99 and even today would still cost at least $12.99 on Clips4Sale.†

I get that everyone sees things differently, but if selling one of our best new products at a full price ($7.50) that is more than 40% below market ($13) makes it still a bad value proposition, then I'm not sure we'll be able to find much common ground in this conversation and would agree that it's probably not the product for you.†

We appreciate the support of the site and the time many of you are taking to share your feedback. I hope the additional facts and information from our perspective makes your purchase/do not purchase decisions easier moving forward. 

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Apr 4th, 2018 at 6:36pm
Oops - this should have been placed in VOD General.  My bad.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Apr 13th, 2018 at 8:26pm
almost 2 weeks? damn.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Apr 14th, 2018 at 2:51pm
"almost 2 weeks?"† That's for videos. Been over a month for photo gallery updates. I'm hoping this particular delay is a sign that the new site is almost here. If the effort is going into Her Biceps Plus instead of updating the old site, I'm cool with that.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Apr 14th, 2018 at 7:52pm

6789shav wrote on Apr 14th, 2018 at 2:51pm:
"almost 2 weeks?"† That's for videos. Been over a month for photo gallery updates. I'm hoping this particular delay is a sign that the new site is almost here. If the effort is going into Her Biceps Plus instead of updating the old site, I'm cool with that.


Yet they have time to uplaod VOD section instead of site ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Apr 15th, 2018 at 1:18pm
oresto94a: you might consider using spell-check before you post.† †::)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Apr 30th, 2018 at 3:53pm
I have no doubt that Herbiceps is the best FBB site but it's frustrating the random interval of updates :(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on May 2nd, 2018 at 2:12am
Agreed. 3 updates in a month is pretty crazy

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on May 3rd, 2018 at 5:15am
Newest update is riddled with duplicates and the newest VOD has a single preview picture...

EDIT: I took a gamble on the VOD and was pleasantly surprised. She rivals Hailey Delf!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on May 6th, 2018 at 12:14am
yeah lots of dupes... who is that girl in the VOD btw?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on May 6th, 2018 at 8:59am
I had to read the source code for the site to find out: Anna Norberg.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on May 6th, 2018 at 11:31pm
Anna is recognizable for those who follow her. Her I.G. site is fitnessgollum.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on May 7th, 2018 at 4:57pm
Her name is in video desribtion lol

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on May 10th, 2018 at 11:35pm
here we go again lol

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on May 11th, 2018 at 12:07am
HP+ better release stat.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on May 11th, 2018 at 6:55pm
they already said it wont be for a while lol

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on May 16th, 2018 at 11:31pm
2 weeks without a video update... a month without a pic update. i know its been said that theyre trying to be better about uploading more often but wow its not happening

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on May 16th, 2018 at 11:33pm
It would seem that they're doubling down on the HBC VODs. My guess is that people are cancelling their subscription to HB.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on May 17th, 2018 at 12:49am
I renew my membership for 6 months a few days ago because I like the site and in the messages of the webmasters there is a promise of a regular and improved services but it's the contrary less updates every month >:( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kevin S. on May 17th, 2018 at 2:39am
Two weeks without an update is too long.
How does this lack of updates keep happening?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on May 17th, 2018 at 1:36pm

bombomper wrote on May 16th, 2018 at 11:33pm:
It would seem that they're doubling down on the HBC VODs. My guess is that people are cancelling their subscription to HB.

Well they're certainly exacerbating the situation.† ::)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by zakaka44 on May 17th, 2018 at 9:40pm
they work for the site that will never open :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on May 17th, 2018 at 9:54pm
it went from an update every  5 days to a weekly update to an update every 10 days to now this. pretty frustrating

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Stonebreaker on May 18th, 2018 at 6:05am
My only issue with this site compared to others is that every other one has a predictable update schedule.  Kriv, HDP, Muscle Angels etc.

Regardless of quantity or quality, you know the updates will be consistent.

I'm fine if it's once a week for a big one, or 2 or 3 smaller ones per week, I just think consistency would pretty much kill this thread and 90% of the complaints.

Two weeks+ isn't fair for a monthly membership.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on May 27th, 2018 at 11:19pm
As usual the updates are uploaded in a random way :(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on May 29th, 2018 at 6:36pm
just about finished clearing through all the old stuff on here, new stuff coming and on the new site there will absolutely be daily updates

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kinky Desires on May 29th, 2018 at 6:51pm
Any chance of some Metal Planks and Grip Strength videos in the next update? It's been 2 whole months without any!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on May 29th, 2018 at 8:31pm
It seems you`ve stopped posting measurements and AW videos...No idea why...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on May 29th, 2018 at 9:45pm
It seems like they use most of the armwrestling clips for VOD to make extra money. I'm mostly interested in armwrestling and i'm really disappointed what i got during the last months. I thought about canceling the membership and use (some of) the money for armwrestling VODs, but there are other things that hold me of from buying VODs here (I also posted about it, in short: you have to buy credits and can't buy videos directly and you only "rent" the video even if the time period is quite long).
Maybe situation will improve with the new site, IF it really goes live someday (I don't think it will happen in 2018...)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on May 29th, 2018 at 10:04pm
there's lot of strength and measurements coming from the latest batches of shoots...only doing VOD with top top models and even then, only with some of the footage...90-95% of what we shoot will still be available on HerBicepsPlus.com...just like on HerBiceps.com...I'm about one more update from clearing through all the old stuff from my update list and then we'll move on to newly edited material...was thinking it would be the cut off point for new updates to appear on HBPlus...but that's still looking at least a month away...so I'll release a lot of that content here in the coming weeks before the launch there

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on May 30th, 2018 at 12:41am
I have a question, I currently have a 6 month membership for Herbiceps, if you launch HBP I have to buy a new membership or my current membership will work in the new site until it expires? :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on May 31st, 2018 at 1:54pm
Mike wrote: "I'm about one more update from clearing through all the old stuff............"

Hopefully this means we will see the 3Ks  (Kacey Stefan, Kendra Newlon, Kristin Abhold)?  As an aside, Kristin doesn't look like this right now as she is 8 months pregnant.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on May 31st, 2018 at 8:23pm

Ricardo wrote on May 30th, 2018 at 12:41am:
I have a question, I currently have a 6 month membership for Herbiceps, if you launch HBP I have to buy a new membership or my current membership will work in the new site until it expires? :)


No, you will have access to the new site also...it will be the same membership.  The nice thing on the new site is that you won't lose your account, preferences, saves, VOD purchases, etc etc...whether you are a paying member or a free member.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jun 7th, 2018 at 10:39pm
In the last update there is a big quantity of videos but I have to admit that I prefer when you post new videos instead of classic videos. I hope that in the next update I will find new videos.  ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Stonebreaker on Jun 11th, 2018 at 11:57am
Probably half of the 6-5 updates are missing from the model pages.  I'd list them all but there are a lot.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:08pm
There is no new videos in the june 5 update, can you check it please.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jun 19th, 2018 at 1:10am
As usual the time between updates is random >:( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Jun 21st, 2018 at 11:47am
The team are in fact incentivizing periodic subscriptions with this random update "schedule". Long term subscription options have entirely lost their value.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Jun 21st, 2018 at 5:17pm
They don`t care for this website anymore ...No posting of 2018 shootings, only old and very, very old videos....
The other option is VOD...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by oresto94a on Jun 21st, 2018 at 7:50pm
Yep that website is dead. Talking about how long it takes to edit video and just look at musclegirlworld.com and Kal Sheppard, 4 vids only flexing

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jun 22nd, 2018 at 4:11am
I have a long term membership but I honestly think that the next time is better to keep a 1 month subscription because is annoying to wait and wait for an update. I don't like vod I don't care if there are many videos on demand. >:( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Jun 22nd, 2018 at 11:27am
And of course, it takes them days to address our opinions, while advertising on Instagram is rampant. "We shot this content now. Join the site and maybe you'll see a video in two years."

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Jun 22nd, 2018 at 2:20pm
Like Ricardo, I'm a long time member, since about 2003. At this point in time, I'm headed into my summer travel season, plus some other commitments. I'll still check Her Biceps occasionally, but it can't be a priority for the next 6-7 weeks. Fortunately, the monthly membership remains quite inexpensive.

I have maybe four dozen different clips downloaded on my desktop computer, almost all of them very short and most from free sources. Also like Ricardo, I have little interest in VOD at this time.

For the record, as of today, it's been 25 days since a photo gallery update, which is my main interest. For those who have the time to sit through lots of 3 and 4 minute clips, which I usually don't have, it's now 11 days since the last video update.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jun 23rd, 2018 at 8:55am
sorry guys, thought we'd be launching plus by now, but still delayed...and I had a tonsillectomy 11 days ago after being sick for a bit...anyhow, got a bunch of stuff and new models lined up for the next month or two while we wait for some finishing work on plus to go off...hope you enjoy today's video update...pics in the next update

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Jun 23rd, 2018 at 2:18pm
Thanks Mike. Hope you're feeling better.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Jun 23rd, 2018 at 2:29pm
I am very happy that you started to introduce new models, with interview and measurements video first!!
A little request (if it is possible) for VOD...Can you make more detailed previews?
As a example the preview of the new Kristy Enos video is 5 pictures, comparison and lift and carry, i love that kind of videos, and bought it
but what my surprise when I saw that there is measurements too!!
These are my all time favorite videos!
In the new Kayla Murphy video there are 4 pictures of posing, I am not much into posing, and don`t have intention to buy it...but, if there are measurements too, and no preview of that, you are losing my money, guys, only for that reason...
So please do more detailed preview with more pictures!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mavri5 on Jun 23rd, 2018 at 5:11pm
I second that Point of view!!

Posing Videos alone are very boring to watch!!
Please always include strength feats like Lift and Carry, Armwrestling of course real authentic ones!!
Muscle Feeling and touching playfully not like worship like kissing biceps or something like that!
Just normal muscle Feeling and touchung!!
I also like the comparison and measurement stuff as well!!

I Think making several minutes Long Videos just posing is wasted time!!
The Girls could Flex all the time during the Video when you make this stuff I mentioned
and which Kurtis also recommended!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jul 1st, 2018 at 2:22am
As usual we have to guess when we get an update :(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by d_d1 on Jul 4th, 2018 at 10:29pm
I've been a member from I think around 2002-2003, thats 15 years, and only had short periods of time off between subscriptions, but never because of being dissatisfied with content. This changed now though, this is the first time I've decided to end my membership because of this. Honestly, when I'm paying you my hard earned money, I really don't care how busy anyone is or what the technical difficulties are because we are the ones paying you. If subscriptions don't bring in enough money to keep up content or upgrade the site, then you've priced it wrong or something else doesn't add up, but it shouldn't be our problem. Charge more then, or something, but don't charge and not deliver.

I'm out.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kevin S. on Jul 5th, 2018 at 1:05am
I too have been a long time member of HB off and on, lately more on.† I even joined Team HB, which seemed to have haulted posting any new content for whatever reason since last July.† HB Cam is nice, but it gets expensive.† HB has been a great site for years with the right mix of content to keep me coming back.† The lack of updates lately, along with the tease of HB Plus coming soon, has really been frustrating.† For me, it's all about the video content and I prefer to see recent video footage.† It's July 2018 and very little 2018 video footage has even been released on the main HB site.† So many new models and favorites can been seen on IG, but still haven't been posted on HB's main site.† Hopefully, the vault of older video footage is nearing empty because I like the seeing the models as close to their current condition as possible.† The one exception I have for liking the older video footage is to compare the older footage to more recent footage for physique transformations.† Still the top two physique transformations, IMHO, on HB are Erica Blockman and Lindsey Cope Spitler, with Brittany Lanae Bull coming on strong.† I especially, like when the models move up in a bodybuilding division like figure to physique or phyique to bodybuilding because their physique justs keeps growing more muscular with their gains.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jul 5th, 2018 at 1:31am
This last year is full of promises but we are still waiting, it's frustrating to see ig full of new models but the site with a random schedule of updates and only new videos on demand, i pay for hb and i don't want to join hbvod.  :( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Jul 5th, 2018 at 12:52pm
I think I will also cancel my membership by end of this month if things don't change fundamental within the nexts days/weeks.
To few and unsteady updates, and i also was disappointed with the few updates. Many old material which of course had a video quality i'm not interested in 2018 anymore. Way to few armwrestling clips which i'm interested most. And of course as always many broken thumbnails in the updates (seems to much "work" for a quick check of the update)
And from what i hear i donm't expect the launch of HB Plus in 2018.
Everything what I expect is some excuses in very friendly words (maybe even to friendly phrased which make in not authentic imo) from Mike and/or Tre, but this does not help the paying members.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Jul 5th, 2018 at 2:17pm
I've only been visiting the site in a membership capacity for a few years now, and even then only on and off, but the lack of regular 'non-flexing' content is quite annoying. Armwrestling, planks, etc have barely even been touched this year so far and it's sad because looking back at the 2011-15 years the amount of these videos being released was INSANE.

And it isn't as though the whole enterprise is in decline as the excellent quality of VODs and the endless, all-consuming development of HB+ can attest to. So it seems incredibly bad practice to appear to be locking all the best content behind a lucrative paywall while sporadically giving the main site half-hearted updates.

As I said, I've never been a full time member so I'll just subscribe again in a few months once some decent content is out, but you've made my cancellation much easier.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Jul 5th, 2018 at 4:53pm
VOD: Updated regulary
Membership content: Updated NOT regulary, excuses because of missing time. Time they have for the VOD section which brings extra money.
If the normal membership section is not profitable enough, then they should tell us and decide to change prices or switch to VOD completly. I would not like that, but at least it would be fair for the members. But i dont't think it's not profitable, because then they would not build HB Plus.
imo the current situation is not acceptable, and i think the language that is understood best is "money", that's why i really think of cancelling my abo as a long-time member which was happy most of the time.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by McMoney on Jul 7th, 2018 at 8:54am
Fully agree with everyone else. I don't see any sort of value to the normal membership anymore. It's beyond clear that the focus is the extremely overpriced VOD clips. I'm sorry, but I can't justify this new pricing paradigm. You guys had the best site for a long time. Great content and a reasonable cost. But everything has changed now. Little reason for the general membership. Few and weak updates. And everything of value is exiled beyond the VOD paywall at much higher costs compared to what this site has historically provided. It's your guys call. I just don't see this as a positive trend I can be on board with.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Stonebreaker on Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:13am
Ya, I'm close to being priced out. I get the business model and don't begrudge everyone making their money - especially since it goes into the site and getting the best models. But I've probably dropped several years worth of HB membership subscription costs into the VOD in just the past few months.† And that's with the VIP membership.† I think we should get half off on just videos personally.† Or have VIP tiered for people who don't like camming and just want to pay less for videos.

If we're going to have access to HB with HB+ membership then I don't see a reason to keep paying for this one as well since the launch date has been up in the air for months.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:05am

McMoney wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 8:54am:
And everything of value is exiled beyond the VOD paywall at much higher costs compared to what this site has historically provided.

"Excuses don't explain, and explanations don't excuse."

That said, the cost of piracy has greatly outpaced every other fixed and assumed business cost over the past 15 years. Are there any membership-only sites left that are viable?† The market of 2018 is not the market of 2000-2005.† Calling it a "seismic shift" doesn't begin to address the magnitude of change in consumer habits since the site's inception in 2002.†

I recognize that we all have personal budgets, but no matter what I'm looking to buy, it seems my $20 has a lot less spending power today than it did in 2002.† And the thieves have multiplied in number and are working overtime trying to make sure I get even less value for it.†

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Irv on Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:56am

Tre wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:05am:

McMoney wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 8:54am:
And everything of value is exiled beyond the VOD paywall at much higher costs compared to what this site has historically provided.

"Excuses don't explain, and explanations don't excuse."

That said, the cost of piracy has greatly outpaced every other fixed and assumed business cost over the past 15 years. Are there any membership-only sites left that are viable?† The market of 2018 is not the market of 2000-2005.† Calling it a "seismic shift" doesn't begin to address the magnitude of change in consumer habits since the site's inception in 2002.†

I recognize that we all have personal budgets, but no matter what I'm looking to buy, it seems my $20 has a lot less spending power today than it did in 2002.† And the thieves have multiplied in number and are working overtime trying to make sure I get even less value for it.†


So if the regular member site doesn't have reason to be in 2018 have some balls and just close it. Content HB provides in 2018 is horrible. We are getting each 10 or so days "shut the crappity smack up update" with 1/3 of links not working. This just says how little attention is paid to it...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:33pm
Tre,

I will repeat myself for VOD, but ...
Can you make more detailed previews?
As a example the preview of the new Kristy Enos video is 5 pictures, comparison and lift and carry, i love that kind of videos, and bought it, but what my surprise when I saw that there is measurements too!!
These are my all time favorite videos!
In the new Kayla Murphy video there are 4 pictures of posing, I am not much into posing, and don`t have intention to buy it...but, if there are measurements too, and no preview of that, you are losing my money, guys, only for that reason...
So please do more detailed preview with more pictures, and add in description what`s in the video, because the filters sux...

And please stop cheating the customers, in the description of Amanda Smith - Pure Biceps video, you wrote
10 minutes of studio sprayed 15" biceps on this powerful blonde bodybuilder...well there is no measurements in this video...because of your lie, a bought this video..if that is the way you`re cheating members ..great, but I am not impressed :(



Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:39pm

Tre wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:05am:

McMoney wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 8:54am:
And everything of value is exiled beyond the VOD paywall at much higher costs compared to what this site has historically provided.

"Excuses don't explain, and explanations don't excuse."

That said, the cost of piracy has greatly outpaced every other fixed and assumed business cost over the past 15 years. Are there any membership-only sites left that are viable?† The market of 2018 is not the market of 2000-2005.† Calling it a "seismic shift" doesn't begin to address the magnitude of change in consumer habits since the site's inception in 2002.†

I recognize that we all have personal budgets, but no matter what I'm looking to buy, it seems my $20 has a lot less spending power today than it did in 2002.† And the thieves have multiplied in number and are working overtime trying to make sure I get even less value for it.†

So is there substantial content to come or are you essentially phasing out the membership site now?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:29pm

Plop13 wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:39pm:
So is there substantial content to come or are you essentially phasing out the membership site now?

Yes, we continue to have a very aggressive shooting schedule.† After his earlier trip to Spain, Poland, and Sweden in the spring, Sean recently did the rare Jr USAs/Jr Nationals double and was able to work with several terrific models. We've also brought multiple athletes out to Vegas to shoot and have a few more gems lined up for the calendar year. Even I came out of retirement last Sunday and drove 4 hours in traffic to do a quickie for the main member site with an athlete we had not worked with before.

The general types of content you guys are used to remain at the core of what we do as a company.† Once things get into (rather than fall into!) place, we expect to be able to deliver regular updates more seamlessly.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jul 8th, 2018 at 8:14pm
Again only promises and excuses but when we get a membership we pay the bank we don't say i have problems i pay you when i solved them. >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Jul 9th, 2018 at 12:16am
Just hypothesizing here, but I think they're focusing on VODs because they're easier to make. Just take the footage, cut away the boring parts, and publish. If that isn't the case, they must be transferring footage through some archaic system, like VHS tapes by horse and carriage. In other words, there's a bottleneck somewhere.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Jul 9th, 2018 at 12:38am

Kurtis Trent wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:33pm:
Tre,
And please stop cheating the customers, in the description of Amanda Smith - Pure Biceps video, you wrote
10 minutes of studio sprayed 15" biceps on this powerful blonde bodybuilder...well there is no measurements in this video...because of your lie, a bought this video..if that is the way you`re cheating members ..great, but I am not impressed :(


If you feel that a video of ours was misrepresented and you bought it based on an inaccurate description, please email us and we will attempt to make you whole. help@herbicepscam.com

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Jul 9th, 2018 at 1:24am
over 2 weeks since a vid update... its crazy it takes an uproar from decade long members to get a photo update

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Jul 9th, 2018 at 5:08am

Tre wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 12:38am:

Kurtis Trent wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:33pm:
Tre,
And please stop cheating the customers, in the description of Amanda Smith - Pure Biceps video, you wrote
10 minutes of studio sprayed 15" biceps on this powerful blonde bodybuilder...well there is no measurements in this video...because of your lie, a bought this video..if that is the way you`re cheating members ..great, but I am not impressed :(


If you feel that a video of ours was misrepresented and you bought it based on an inaccurate description, please email us and we will attempt to make you whole. help@herbicepscam.com


the video is great, and I like it...just make better previews in the future..

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jul 10th, 2018 at 1:34pm
More than 2 weeks without a video update you don't care about your customers. :( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by d_d1 on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:59pm
what a joke. just went ahead with unsubscribing.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:05pm
Honestly amazed they didn't do a video update even after all this furor.† :o

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:14pm
Crickets and tumbleweeds have taken over the main site, while content is being churned out on a large scale on the cam site. Why.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:21pm
Absolutly right. Im really feed up at the moment and just tried to cancel my membership here: https://www.herbiceps.com/cancel-membership.shtml
I only have a membership for herbiceps.com and tried to cancel using the herbiceps.com only option (https://secure.thevalkyrie.com/psuser/psutil.cgi?service=herb&function=cancelform)
In the form I used the same username and password i use for downloading clips and that user and password still works, i tried it just seconds ago.
In the reason field i explained that i'm really disappointed.
Unfortunately I get the error "I can't find the username <my username> as a member of HerBiceps"
https://thumb.ibb.co/bz0Cwo/Clipboard01.jpg

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:31pm
I think that cancel a membership it's the best way to end this poor customer service but in some cases we got a long term membership and in this case I only have to wait that the webmaster post an update as a gift of their generosity. >:( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:42pm
"honestly amazed they didn't do a video update even after all this furor....."  (#378)

What furor???† I count just 7-8 guys who are making a lot of noise talking to themselves. ::)

McMoney (#364): dude puts up his 3rd post just to complain.

Stonebreaker (#365):† "ya, I'm close to being priced out....."† I'm paying $29.95 per quarter, which I had clarified through Diana the Valkyrie some months back. That's $10 bucks a month, for all the 16 years of content, plus periodic updates. Sorry, but if you can't afford $10 per month, maybe you shouldn't be here at all, or just head to the free sites like Girls with Muscle.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:57pm

6789shav wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:42pm:
"honestly amazed they didn't do a video update even after all this furor....."† (#378)

What furor???† I count just 7-8 guys who are making a lot of noise talking to themselves. ::)

McMoney (#364): dude puts up his 3rd post just to complain.

Stonebreaker (#365):† "ya, I'm close to being priced out....."† I'm paying $29.95 per quarter, which I had clarified through Diana the Valkyrie some months back. That's $10 bucks a month, for all the 16 years of content, plus periodic updates. Sorry, but if you can't afford $10 per month, maybe you shouldn't be here at all, or just head to the free sites like Girls with Muscle.

Maybe furor was the wrong word to use, but if 7-8 guys bother to actually come on the forum and complain I can guarantee that there's a whole lot more who are unhappy.

And, sure it doesn't break the bank but if you're paying for a subscription service you expect some degree of regular updates and can be rightfully annoyed if you subscribe for a month at the wrong time and only get one update for the length of your subscription.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Jul 12th, 2018 at 5:24am
Chill out everyone guys :)
Things are simple, you like it you pay and enjoy, you don't like it you don't pay and say goodbye, that's so easy.
Like a pay TV or any other service you are not forced to enjoy.
Btw I understand the passion, the discussions, it's a forum and a place to talk, but as much as who's buying want to be satisfied with the content, I guess a seller wanna make sure he's selling the best product he can.
In our jobs we all work for profits and hopefully satisfaction, if sellers and buyers are both happy, that's cool but again, a buyer can decide, he's got the power.
Said that, a healthy conversation can let both part understand each other, what people want, what's the best product I can sell, but in the end customer can always decide, no need to make too much noise.
If I don't like a place I simply change and stop going there, if they ask me for a feedback I'm happy to say my reasons and explain what made me change. Then they can consider if it worth a change or what they are doing is fine anyway.
Peace and love folks  8-)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 1:45pm
I hope that an update will be posted this weekend.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by sixpack09 on Jul 25th, 2018 at 3:19am
I think Shannon Seely shoot is the best I have seen in quite some time she was amazing and Aspen Rae's also

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by smoke10010 on Aug 3rd, 2018 at 1:51am
2 updates a month with a month between them is kinda harsh. I get that the regular defenders and people that are patient are going to come at me.. from a consumer perspective.. my 6 month membership by calculation is cheaper if I wait til I see what I want then purchase then. Also.. I get I can do exactly what I described. No judgement or hate.. just an observation. If I purchase $10 and get a bucket of ice cream, then $50 and get 3 buckets of ice cream.. $10 for what and when I want makes more sense however it's ultimately hurting the company to not make me want to spend $50 as much as possible. Bad analogy but I'm kinda drunk (it's summer), and yeah no one is holding a gun to my head so see ya guys later!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Aug 3rd, 2018 at 4:13am
Again we have to wait that a update will be posted in the site, with this intervals is more logic to get a monthly membership every 6 months. For your business is better to get 10 dollars in a semester instead of 50 dollars if you provide regular updates?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Stonebreaker on Aug 5th, 2018 at 5:32am
Thinking it's the calm before the storm.  VOD hasn't been updated in a while either.  I bet the new site is about to come.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by MisterM on Aug 14th, 2018 at 1:35am
I think the issue for me, as someone who's subscribed to this site since about 2004, is that so many of the best clips go to the VOD site these days, even if they were clearly shot for the main site, and have a herbiceps.com logo on them instead of a herbicepscam.com logo. Some of these VOD clips are from the same shoots that are on the main site, they just happen to be the best 5 mins of that shoot -- the lift and carry portion, the armwrestling, the best flexing segment -- and it's a little annoying that that's happening. It used to be that the herbiceps CAM stuff was just that, webcam. Now it's made up of HD clips often shot by Sean, that should have been on the main site but are now being sold for $5-$7 a pop. Mike and the guys have the right to do what they want with their own site, but it's not unfair for us longtime customers to voice our complaints, or cancel subscriptions. And that's not whining, it's feedback.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Aug 15th, 2018 at 8:08am
The production team is tasked with editing HB-branded content.† Currently, our primary VOD store is on the HBC platform, and that's where we sell HerBiceps.com videos.† One of our ongoing discussions is how to simplify the presentation of our offerings so as to eliminate on a general level the type of confusion you're describing.†Simply, there are currently no HerBicepsCam.com-branded VODs for sale.†

As I have stated before, we have greatly underserved the VOD customer over the past decade.† I fully understand your rationale: members of the paysite used to get ALL or close to all of the content.†To remain viable in a competitive marketplace, businesses have to evolve. We want to make our best efforts to service every type of visitor who comes to our site in hopes of creating new customers and retaining existing ones.† The typical HB visitor wants great models, great videos, and great photos.† An HB membership is still just $11.95.† If pricing was adjusted for inflation, that would be almost $17 today.† But while the price has remained constant, unfortunately, production costs have not.† It costs significantly more to produce a 10-minute clip today than it did in 2007. We cannot make the same kinds of decisions we did then.

We definitely appreciate your having supported the site for so many years.† Your feedback is as valuable to us as your business, so we do want you to know that we are listening. I wish I could give you the response you wanted to read, but hope that you can understand our perspective.† We want people to feel good about spending their time and money on our products, whether it's a subscription, VOD, or webcam...or even nothing at all. Thank you for taking the time to let us know your feelings and looking ahead, we hope you will again give us an opportunity to earn your business.†

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by MisterM on Aug 16th, 2018 at 12:00pm
I understand that you guys are going to do what you need to in order to make money, it's a business, not a charity. And I appreciate you taking the time to address it.


Tre wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 8:08am:
The production team is tasked with editing HB-branded content.† Currently, our primary VOD store is on the HBC platform, and that's where we sell HerBiceps.com videos.† One of our ongoing discussions is how to simplify the presentation of our offerings so as to eliminate on a general level the type of confusion you're describing.†Simply, there are currently no HerBicepsCam.com-branded VODs for sale.†

As I have stated before, we have greatly underserved the VOD customer over the past decade.† I fully understand your rationale: members of the paysite used to get ALL or close to all of the content.†To remain viable in a competitive marketplace, businesses have to evolve. We want to make our best efforts to service every type of visitor who comes to our site in hopes of creating new customers and retaining existing ones.† The typical HB visitor wants great models, great videos, and great photos.† An HB membership is still just $11.95.† If pricing was adjusted for inflation, that would be almost $17 today.† But while the price has remained constant, unfortunately, production costs have not.† It costs significantly more to produce a 10-minute clip today than it did in 2007. We cannot make the same kinds of decisions we did then.

We definitely appreciate your having supported the site for so many years.† Your feedback is as valuable to us as your business, so we do want you to know that we are listening. I wish I could give you the response you wanted to read, but hope that you can understand our perspective.† We want people to feel good about spending their time and money on our products, whether it's a subscription, VOD, or webcam...or even nothing at all. Thank you for taking the time to let us know your feelings and looking ahead, we hope you will again give us an opportunity to earn your business.†


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Aug 16th, 2018 at 8:08pm
regarding VOD vs members material...we are looking forward to the new site (most of what we are shooting now is for that)

so, we are paying models more and putting more into editing and VOD...part of why we can do this is we hired 2 additional full-time video editors...plus Sean in his downtime

we are also paying top models more, doing more fly-ins as well...significantly more...and more shooting overall

so, the amount of extra time we have with models to do more VOD-type stuff, with guys as victims, etc etc...has gone up...and the more time we have with models (meaning more expenses and fees), the more we are motivated to make that up with video sales...its a choice we've made to go from the more polite shoots to more intense shoots...

because membership numbers have gone down over the years and because we have a very high level of spending on the cam site, it makes a lot of sense (business-wise), to put fresh product up

on the new plus site, all paying members will get a 20% discount on the videos...but we'll also be publishing tons of material for free and included in the monthly membership (along with discounts and privileges)

I can see why it would seem shitty to current members right now, but I think over time you will come to see that the VOD is a lot of extra shooting, and a new way to not just monetize but to justify creating exactly the kinds of content people most want to see

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Aug 16th, 2018 at 8:21pm
This means that the new site is only vod not downloadable videos :'(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Aug 16th, 2018 at 8:50pm
free clips for free members will stream at standard res
same free clips for paid members can stream or download at highest res

some clips will be for members access only for stream or download

VODs will be purchasable by free or paid members for stream or download

free or paid, members keep one account with user/pass whether they are actively paying or not...keeping access to favorites, purchases, etc etc

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Aug 16th, 2018 at 9:36pm
Thanks it sounds good

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Aug 17th, 2018 at 1:02pm
Will the new site still have photo galleries? Unlike some of the other folks posting here who appear to have loads of free time, I don't. The galleries allow for sampling of a model within my schedule, which generally does not allow for sitting through hours of videos.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Aug 17th, 2018 at 7:18pm
galleries, yes

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Irv on Aug 19th, 2018 at 1:59pm
So all this waiting for different kind of clips4sale? What is the diffrence if you would just put all the VODs on Herbicespcam as it is now?



Mike wrote on Aug 16th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
free clips for free members will stream at standard res
same free clips for paid members can stream or download at highest res

some clips will be for members access only for stream or download

VODs will be purchasable by free or paid members for stream or download

free or paid, members keep one account with user/pass whether they are actively paying or not...keeping access to favorites, purchases, etc etc


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Aug 19th, 2018 at 5:35pm

Irv wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 1:59pm:
So all this waiting for different kind of clips4sale? What is the diffrence if you would just put all the VODs on Herbicespcam as it is now?

Clips4sale is an entirely different business model.

Our goal is to create a new type of user experience for fans of female muscle.† The old HerBiceps member site will still exist in archive form and will be included in the monthly membership.†

Although there is some overlap, not every member site visitor has any interest in webcam and the opposite is also true. Sure, we would love for every fan everywhere to check out all our site properties and hopefully make a purchase or two while visiting, but the goal of the business is to give customers and prospective customers the experience they want.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Aug 20th, 2018 at 1:30am
[quote author=70677E7E617A777376120 link=1480623786/399#399 date=1534683585]So all this waiting for different kind of clips4sale? What is the diffrence if you would just put all the VODs on Herbicespcam as it is now?


I must not be making how its going to work too clear.  Yes, we'll have VODs for sale on the new site, the same kinds of titles that you're already seeing on the cam site.

But more important/relevant to current members here is that the same content as always will be more accessible than ever because you can access as free or paid member (pics and most clips).  The biggest difference will be the usability of the new site and the new abilities to stream quickly, sort/filter/save/favorite/comment, etc etc.  The other differences will be frequency of updates (since the new CMS allows for auto-updating), reduction in monthly pricing, and addition of various kinds of articles/media not currently being featured on HerBiceps.com

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by duffman on Aug 20th, 2018 at 12:24pm
There remains the question of all questions: When will it be online? I dont want an exact date, but maybe the season (autumn, winter, spring?)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Aug 21st, 2018 at 8:40am

Tre wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 5:35pm:

Irv wrote on Aug 19th, 2018 at 1:59pm:
So all this waiting for different kind of clips4sale? What is the diffrence if you would just put all the VODs on Herbicespcam as it is now?

Clips4sale is an entirely different business model.

Our goal is to create a new type of user experience for fans of female muscle.† The old HerBiceps member site will still exist in archive form and will be included in the monthly membership.†

Although there is some overlap, not every member site visitor has any interest in webcam and the opposite is also true. Sure, we would love for every fan everywhere to check out all our site properties and hopefully make a purchase or two while visiting, but the goal of the business is to give customers and prospective customers the experience they want.



I love everything you are doing guys, I am for the freedom of expression, but some videos are nothing but porno, aka the last Rapture videos in particular, no need to get the video, just look at the preview picture, I don't like to see dicks in a website like HBC... that's clips4sale material :P

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by duffman on Aug 21st, 2018 at 11:27am
You are absolutely right xhero. I don't like that stuff either. Rapture used to be a real beauty, but now she is heading more and more into the porn industry, which doesn't do her good. So sad :'(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Aug 21st, 2018 at 3:33pm

duffman wrote on Aug 21st, 2018 at 11:27am:
You are absolutely right xhero. I don't like that stuff either. Rapture used to be a real beauty, but now she is heading more and more into the porn industry, which doesn't do her good. So sad :'(


well I don't want to moralize, as I told before I am for freedom, just meant to say that's not so far from what's on clips4sale and I definitely don't like to see dicks and stuff :P

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by smoke10010 on Aug 21st, 2018 at 8:33pm
Updates!!!
Just j/k.. you guys picked up the slack.. appreciate that.. I don't think people post that very often here.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by zakaka44 on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:36pm
vod section expect more posing naked video ::)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by GirlzGoneBig on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:32am
Speaking earlier of Rapture, she is a woman who has appeal both in the work she does in the Adult industry and for fans of female muscle. I actually like the crossover she makes.

Aspen Rae is another beauty but she has come from that world into this one of physique. She has built muscle well and feel the future is bright for her.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:38am

GirlzGoneBig wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:32am:
Speaking earlier of Rapture, she is a woman who has appeal both in the work she does in the Adult industry and for fans of female muscle. I actually like the crossover she makes.

Aspen Rae is another beauty but she has come from that world into this one of physique. She has built muscle well and feel the future is bright for her.


nothing to argue about that and much respect for Rapture and even more Aspen Rae, I just told I honestly don't like to see porn stuff in HBC, sounds like a chance lost to make it something cool and different than just another livejasmin and stuff like this.
I was referring to the screen capture preview of her latest videos, the content was way too explicit, with male parts. I am glad to see that the preview is better now. Sorry if you don't agree but, that's my point of view.
Said that, girls can do all the stuff they want, indeed, and in pvt even more, I just asked to keep HBC cool, nothing more than this.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Aug 27th, 2018 at 3:04pm
As usual random time between updates. I recognize that hb is one of the best sites of fbb but i also expect a better care for the customers

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:09am

zakaka44 wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
vod section expect more posing naked video ::)


One of the things I love about HerBiceps, even the cam site, is that its not all about porn/nudity.  We rarely shoot it, though we now do own a lot of content that includes some of it from the Physique Dreams archive.  You'll see those videos keep popping up in the VOD areas, but generally we keep it sexy but clean...topless occasionally but not often. 

But as for what the women post themselves or do on webcam, that is completely up to them and we respect their choices.  We let them know its not required, but cam attracts a lot of muscular women who gravitate towards that and we respect those choices. They enjoy what they enjoy, they get to choose how they want their bodies to look like and we can appreciate them for who they are and what they do, or choose to spend our time with the girls that are more to our taste.


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:28am

Mike wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:09am:

zakaka44 wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
vod section expect more posing naked video ::)


"But as for what the women post themselves or do on webcam, that is completely up to them and we respect their choices."


Totally agreed, just saying it can be done with some basic rules keeping clean for example their preview thumbs, maybe they can be more explicit in the description.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:07am
there is a filter to select adult inclusion or non-adult on the videos page...it does require models to be accurate when posting videos, which probably isn't always the case...I'll take a look at some point and see if if makes sense to clean up the practices we see happening

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:17pm
yes I realized it and I appreciate it.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Aug 29th, 2018 at 10:02am

Mike wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:07am:
there is a filter to select adult inclusion or non-adult on the videos page...it does require models to be accurate when posting videos, which probably isn't always the case...I'll take a look at some point and see if if makes sense to clean up the practices we see happening


Mike,
don't get me wrong, I don't want to be a pain in the axx
but check it out:
https://ibb.co/iXQSyU
this is the default view, that's honestly too far for me, I guess this should be hidden somehow, unless you check the adult section.
I think some girls need to be educated, that's just porn stuff and this is bringing down your awesome work.
it's gonna level down also all the awesome girls featured on your website, please don't let just few of them bringing down them all.
it's not a critic, just a feedback, thanks for listening.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Sep 12th, 2018 at 11:05pm
Another week without an update :( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Sep 13th, 2018 at 5:03am
Weeks without updates sometimes a month without picture updates...I'f HBC+ is not gunna happen or if it's still a long way away then we as paying customers should b seeing regular updates. Also some updates of recent r from 2016 and 2017

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by duffman on Sep 13th, 2018 at 1:59pm
Maybe they are still on summer vacation. Also Olympia Weekend coming up.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Sean on Sep 14th, 2018 at 6:53am
its been a busy week shooting at the olympia.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Irv on Sep 16th, 2018 at 4:04pm

Sean wrote on Sep 14th, 2018 at 6:53am:
its been a busy week shooting at the olympia.

Are you guys suprised by the Olympia date and couldnt post and upate before?? it is not like those update are even big. Somehow VOD store got updated ...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Sep 17th, 2018 at 12:17pm
15 days, a lot of excuses and 0 updates >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Sep 18th, 2018 at 3:20am
Idk about the rest of u but I'm expecting a very big update...but I'm tired of waiting weeks and almost a month for picture updates. How hard can that be. My time here is slowly coming to an end

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kevin S. on Sep 19th, 2018 at 12:06am
There better be not only a big update, but also 2018 material.  The third quarter of this year is almost over and there is plenty of 2018 material that is on social media that still hasn't been posted on HB.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Sep 19th, 2018 at 1:56pm
I understand Kevin's feeling. But will point out that there is 2016 and 2017 material still in the pipeline. Still waiting for Kacey Stefan, Kendra Newlon, Kristin Abhold material, to name just three.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Sep 19th, 2018 at 5:25pm
I don't expect any update it's clear that all the new material is used in the VOD section and the customers of the classic HB will be less and less. For many years I have no doubt that this site is the best in FBB but not now.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by GirlzGoneBig on Sep 20th, 2018 at 3:29am
I have always been the kind of person who would proudly emblazon Herbiceps on his bumper sticker, the wealth of backdated material is unmatched by websites of a similar ilk.

Having said that though, that can no longer be used, i feel, as a way to placate paying members. Yes there are websites that charge a lot more for a month's membership but there has to be an element of making the membership worthwhile at the same time. I have ordered around 20 videos from the VOD store over the last month or so and whereas these are great and think this is an awesome venture, members of the HB site shouldn't be neglected as a sacrifice.

Members shouldn't have to wait the best part of 2 years to see the great shoots that are floating around with 2018 stamped on them. Those women are the 'happening now' athletes and think it would be great to capitalise on their success at the time they are experiencing it.

I have been an on off member of the HB site since 2002 an will always adore it - just thought i'd add my two cents.

Dave

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Sep 20th, 2018 at 7:14pm
Update anytime soon? For me I've paid this whole month and havent seen an update. I've been a member on and off for a long time so I have seen all the old stuff. I signed up on the 2nd or 3rd of this month hoping I'd see some new material

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Sep 20th, 2018 at 11:08pm
Searching a new record without updates, almost 3 weeks

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by ColdFire on Sep 21st, 2018 at 12:18am

Goodtimes wrote on Sep 20th, 2018 at 7:14pm:
I signed up on the 2nd or 3rd of this month hoping I'd see some new material

I learned a long time ago, not just because of HerBiceps but any subscription service, you shouldn't sign up for future content, you should only sign up for past content.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Sep 21st, 2018 at 3:44am
I'm actually quite interested in what kind of archaic system you have for updating the site. I assume it isn't automated in any way so I could understand if you were busy with shoots that you might not get too much time to manually update it. But you have a pretty active presence on the forums and take time to give some substantial answers, so surely it wouldn't be too difficult to log in to the site and add some new clips instead of replying to all these complaints?

I'd assume that the lack of updates means shortage of content, but it seems this is evidently not the case considering shoots from 2016 are still being unearthed and recent footage is abundant on the VOD site. Unless you have a shortage of recent footage because it's all going on VOD of course.

Thankfully, I'm not too badly affected by lack of updates as I only get the monthly membership once a decent amount of new content I enjoy (mostly armwrestling and strength challenges) is added, but even then I'm a little annoyed that for 3 weeks of the 4 week membership, which is just due to expire, there have been no updates.

In short I'd just like a little more clarity as to why exactly updates take so long and are so sporadic. Sometimes you make out as though you don't even have control over these updates; unsure of when a certain shoot in demand is likely to go up for example. Is this just due to it being too time-consuming to do a single update a week? Is it that there's no enforced schedule? Is it a content shortage? Is it simply that no one can be bothered to update? You can see where the discontent is coming from when the VOD is overflowing with quality content whereas the subscription site is essentially a shadow of it's former self.

Sorry if this is coming across as aggressive, that is not my intention, I just think a little clarity and transparency would go a long way to calming the tensions around this place. Because 3 weeks with no update on a site which sells a monthly subscription service is poor form.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by GirlzGoneBig on Sep 22nd, 2018 at 7:49am
as an end user and consumer, we are within rights to know what is happening. Other sites which have been going 10 - 15 years plus still manage to update every few days, so why is HB the exception to the rule? Those other sites obviously spend time doing shoots too and yet their updates manage to be a lot more regular.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Sep 22nd, 2018 at 9:52pm
Mike will there be an update soon? It's been a while. At the very least can u let us customers know what's going on?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Sep 22nd, 2018 at 11:34pm
There is no respect for the customers of the regular site, no explanations only promises of the new site. All is clear, all the efforts (updates) on the vod section because is more expensive, is sad but is true it's like femflex.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 12:11pm
There's only one language they understand: money!
That means cancel your membership (like I did 2 month ago) and don't buy rent VODs for some time

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 8:08pm
The record, set earlier this year, for days between photo gallery updates, is 33 days. Only 27 days as of today.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Sep 24th, 2018 at 1:58am
Even the HB Instagram profile has been updated. Should we expect a Femflex update before any new content is released here?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Sep 25th, 2018 at 12:04am
Sadly i cancel my renewal there is no expectations

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Oct 6th, 2018 at 3:16am
So it's been 8 days without an update which isn't that bad. I'm just hoping we dont have to wait another 2 or 3 weeks for any updates. It seems to b nothing in early in the month and then 2 updates at the end of the month. Maybe this time we can get some armwrestling clips???

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Oct 9th, 2018 at 8:18am

Goodtimes wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 3:16am:
So it's been 8 days without an update which isn't that bad. I'm just hoping we dont have to wait another 2 or 3 weeks for any updates. It seems to b nothing in early in the month and then 2 updates at the end of the month. Maybe this time we can get some armwrestling clips???


Have you not see? Armwrestling and measurement now only in VOD section...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Oct 9th, 2018 at 3:28pm
Are we ever going to get more than one update per month again? A token update over a couple of days per month then forget about it?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Oct 9th, 2018 at 4:54pm
Almost 2 years ago Herbicepsplus was supposed to be ready. Still no word on that and this site is getting worse and worse every month with updates. I refuse to spend money on the main site and also rent a VOD for 10-20 dollars. At least let us all know what's actually going on. And if you dont care about the site anymore maybe u should shut it down or f'N sell it

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Oct 9th, 2018 at 10:48pm

Goodtimes wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 4:54pm:
Almost 2 years ago Herbicepsplus was supposed to be ready. Still no word on that and this site is getting worse and worse every month with updates. I refuse to spend money on the main site and also rent a VOD for 10-20 dollars. At least let us all know what's actually going on. And if you don't care about the site anymore maybe u should shut it down or f'N sell it

Hi!

Though we know you're tired of hearing it, we do understand your frustration. I don't really have an update available for you other than to say that we're working diligently on moving the new project toward completion. It's not that we don't care about you, it's that we do not want to create any expectations about things that are not fully in our control. When we have a functioning product in hand, you will be the first to know.† ;)

We want to do right by you guys, which is why we're putting so much into the new site.† No explanations, no excuses...we're all-in on this and we hope it will have been worth the wait. We really appreciate the amount of patience and loyalty so many of you have granted us during the process and we're committed to working to repay you for it.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Oct 9th, 2018 at 11:06pm
Ok you are still working in the new site but the current site?

No updates  >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Oct 10th, 2018 at 12:00pm
Agreed, we get plenty of updated on how the new site is going but never get a response as to why there are very rarely any new updates on this site...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Irv on Oct 11th, 2018 at 10:34am
Tre, Mike - can u gather some balls and answer us honestly what is going on with EXISTING site? Last 3 months update frequency is the new standard?



Tre wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 10:48pm:

Goodtimes wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 4:54pm:
Almost 2 years ago Herbicepsplus was supposed to be ready. Still no word on that and this site is getting worse and worse every month with updates. I refuse to spend money on the main site and also rent a VOD for 10-20 dollars. At least let us all know what's actually going on. And if you don't care about the site anymore maybe u should shut it down or f'N sell it

Hi!

Though we know you're tired of hearing it, we do understand your frustration. I don't really have an update available for you other than to say that we're working diligently on moving the new project toward completion. It's not that we don't care about you, it's that we do not want to create any expectations about things that are not fully in our control. When we have a functioning product in hand, you will be the first to know.† ;)

We want to do right by you guys, which is why we're putting so much into the new site.† No explanations, no excuses...we're all-in on this and we hope it will have been worth the wait. We really appreciate the amount of patience and loyalty so many of you have granted us during the process and we're committed to working to repay you for it.


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by GirlzGoneBig on Oct 13th, 2018 at 3:21pm
It has to be said, there seems to be some skirting around the questions being asked. We have no doubt that the new site will be great, when it finally sees the light of day, but the question is in relation to this site. If the new site is going to be as grand as forecast, then surely losing memberships on this site wouldn't hurt the bank account that greatly. HB way back when was a place of frequent updates and whereas it is completely normal to want to upgrade a product, transparency is needed in the interim with relation to the current pay site. I think people stick with HB for the hope that things will get better but it just seems that updating the main site has become an after-thought.

The VOD site is updated very frequently so this shows that those who are in charge of the HB brand are busy doing something. There are only 24 hours in a day and we appreciate that but as a previous poster wrote, if things with HB are being put on the back burner, at least notify those who have been, as you said 'loyal', to the fact.




Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Oct 13th, 2018 at 10:07pm
Unless you guys have some deep-pocketed investors onboard, we're it. Please keep us up to date, please give us our money's worth, and please don't screw us over.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Oct 14th, 2018 at 7:41pm
20 days without photo update. 17 days without video update. And 30 pages of your loyal customers who pay your bills asking for something simple as a couple updates here and there

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by macdis on Oct 15th, 2018 at 2:58am

6789shav wrote on Sep 23rd, 2018 at 8:08pm:
The record, set earlier this year, for days between photo gallery updates, is 33 days. Only 27 days as of today.


Any sites have a better update record?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Oct 15th, 2018 at 5:07am
And they increased the prices for VOD...Just look at new Margie Martin video...125 CR for 9 minutes ...WOW!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Oct 16th, 2018 at 2:23am
meanwhile the VOD store is updated and they don't address this again lol almost halfway through the month and no updates, no response, nothing.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Oct 17th, 2018 at 2:49am
Poor customer service, many excuses and zero updates.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Oct 17th, 2018 at 4:52am
dont worry, they updated the VOD section  ;D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Oct 17th, 2018 at 5:18am
and soon they update the website with many videos shoot in...2015...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:35am
I'm quite sure the laugh their asses off. 31 pages of complaints and the people are still paying... Even better, they are paying more because they are buying renting additional VOD clips.
As I said before, the language they understand best is money, that's why i canceled my membership 2 or 3 months ago. I if I have a look at the updates I don't regret it - unfortunately. Because i really liked the content for years.
I hope the situation changes, I will join immediately again then.
I also don't have any expectations to the new site any longer. I'm sure it will not launch this year and i'm not even sure if it will launch in 2019. Of course I don't know what is happening in the background, but in my opinion it's the way they work. You have to set yourself fixed dates to have pressure, otherwise you'll never finish. It also seems they are working with very cheap developers. They maybe good in coding, but design and usabilty of herbicepscam is not really good and on a level i would expect in 2018 (not to mention the actual herbiceps site which looks 20 years old). Also little changes like access to the detail pages on herbicepscam take ages, a skilled dev would implement that in less than one day. And their seems no management of the shooted clips. We often read about lost footage, the updates often had duplicate clips and no new clips but old ones.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Oct 17th, 2018 at 1:41pm
You'd think that they might put out even two sets of updates in one month just to get some people off their backs, but they're obviously sticking to their profit margin like glue.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by zakaka44 on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:59pm
they don't have enough subscribers to update.I think the new website will never be launched...The owners of this site are very incompetent

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Oct 17th, 2018 at 9:56pm
If they actually decided to double down on VODs and ignore the main site, they made a huge mistake.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by zakaka44 on Oct 17th, 2018 at 11:49pm

bombomper wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 9:56pm:
If they actually decided to double down on VODs and ignore the main site, they made a huge mistake.

I bought vod a few times. regretted download is not allowed and the image quality is very low. Now everyone goes to UHD 4K, these videos are in 2002's quality.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Oct 18th, 2018 at 2:09am

zakaka44 wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
they don't have enough subscribers to update.I think the new website will never be launched...The owners of this site are very incompetent

They're still putting out content from like 2015 though, if they can pull decent videos from that far back there must still be an absolute motherload of more recent vids. Do they really need a buffer of 3 years?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Oct 18th, 2018 at 1:15pm
zakaka44: who is forcing you to hang around here? If you don't like it, you know what you can do. Just sayin'.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Oct 18th, 2018 at 6:09pm

Plop13 wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 2:09am:

zakaka44 wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
they don't have enough subscribers to update.I think the new website will never be launched...The owners of this site are very incompetent

They're still putting out content from like 2015 though, if they can pull decent videos from that far back there must still be an absolute motherload of more recent vids. Do they really need a buffer of 3 years?

As I said, really bad or I would say even no organization of the footage. I don't want to know how many outstanding armwrestling clips are lying around anywhere and nobody knows. That is wasted monyey, because the shootings of course are not for free... We are living in a fast moving time, so another drawback if you post videos that are years old, is that the quality of the videos is not as you would expect it in our days.
I bet there will be no reply, but a quiet little update in the next days with old videos the can't be used for VOD (you won't see other stuff in the normal member site any longer i think) to calm down the members.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Oct 18th, 2018 at 9:47pm

Femalebicepsfan wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 6:09pm:

Plop13 wrote on Oct 18th, 2018 at 2:09am:

zakaka44 wrote on Oct 17th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
they don't have enough subscribers to update.I think the new website will never be launched...The owners of this site are very incompetent

They're still putting out content from like 2015 though, if they can pull decent videos from that far back there must still be an absolute motherload of more recent vids. Do they really need a buffer of 3 years?

As I said, really bad or I would say even no organization of the footage. I don't want to know how many outstanding armwrestling clips are lying around anywhere and nobody knows. That is wasted monyey, because the shootings of course are not for free... We are living in a fast moving time, so another drawback if you post videos that are years old, is that the quality of the videos is not as you would expect it in our days.
I bet there will be no reply, but a quiet little update in the next days with old videos the can't be used for VOD (you won't see other stuff in the normal member site any longer i think) to calm down the members.

I wish, it's more likely we'll get the token update with one or two armwrestling/plank vids, "guys HB+ is coming", then a month's radio silence.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Oct 18th, 2018 at 10:56pm
To Mike and the rest of the team: Why do you hate your customers?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by smoke10010 on Oct 19th, 2018 at 1:30am
It's probably best to just cancel unless you're after their old footage... Generally when companies go dark it due to a larger issue behind the scenes. Outside of running things poorly, there's probably anything from legal issues, partners/employees fighting, lack of funding, technical issues, death in the company, and the list goes on and on. There's a good chance the website won't exist by the end of the year... or they launch HB+ with half their client base.. whatever it is, let your memberships run out and make a decision based on what you see the company does or responds when they finally do.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kevin S. on Oct 19th, 2018 at 3:54am
We've been FemFlexed :(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Oct 19th, 2018 at 4:40am

Kevin S. wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 3:54am:
We've been FemFlexed :(


That was a good one  :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Oct 19th, 2018 at 5:28am
Well, 1st, I'm not judging.
But I got the feeling that guys at HBC are slowly going into the more erotic muscles teasing area.
VODS are most of the time about emasculation, domination, muscles comparison, size, strength, and video cams has gone porn without any selection, basically there's girls just flexing and not open to go dirty, but many others are coming from other porn sites.
In the end I guess that's what audience has been asking more or less.
I don't know how many members they have in the "old" site but you all are smart enough to understand that even just one 25$ load of wallet is pretty much more than one month membership.
I also think guys at HBC are smart enough to know things about their business and they surely are doing the most convenient thing for them.
I don't know anything about their costs but porn always sell, always sold, will always sell. HBC cams is surely paying off pretty much more than memberships from the old style website, and VODS content the same. It does make sense.
Paying for a more specific content is also a more modern approach even in TV, sports on demand, movies etc etc
In the end, even if the platform will switch from the actual old style website to a new one, you will have a limited basic content and you'll have to pay for a more specific one, if I'm wrong Mike will tell, but that's my sensation. And again, I'm not saying it's wrong or right, it's their business and they have the right to do it the way they think will pay off the better way, don't forget that none is forcing you to pay and you all can simply cancel your membership.
I'm doing the same, I've stopped my membership but still enjoying some VODS here and there and sometimes visiting just one model I like in chat, but not that often.
As a side note, I'm a bit more surprised (even if I shouldn't be) about how many girls showed off a poker face pretending to be super moralistic, for example in their IG page to be then some complete beatches on here with a different nickname and complaining if they get recognized or someone mention their real name lol I mean, that's not even smart, in which crappity smack world are you living girl???
obviously people here can easily find them on IG or any other social.
But that's another story.
As a very last note, I am TOTALLY against sharing vids on porn sites like pornhub and shit. If you enjoy a girl in PVT you are having an intimate moment with her and maybe you even had some requests for yourself pleasure, if you are recording and sharing not only you are violating the law (just in case you don't know that) but you are a complete asshole. And don't tell me that since you are paying you have the right to do it, you are just an idiot. Fact.
I'll NEVER share an intimate moment I had with a girl who gave me some pleasure, you should do the same.
Btw, apologize I've been off topic and mixed arguments but felt this way.
Amen.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Oct 19th, 2018 at 11:43am
Many good points, I also agree with the most.
I can't tell if they really earn more mit VOD ar not, but I can at least understand the approach and that people at least think that. But don't forget with the membership you have kind of a regular "income" from the members. I did't spend a single cent here since I canceled my membership. I don't like cams and i generaly find them (also on all other sites) way to expensive. I also don't like the usabilty and the renting model (instead of buying) of the VOD site. I would for example pay for something like an armwrestling tournament, but renting a more or less expensive VOD only because a short armwrestling match in in (the rest is often not interestung to me) does not pay off for me. Before they got $13.95 every month from me for years. If VOD is the future of herbiceps they should at least be honest and tell their customers. But I totally agree with you, none is forced to pay and everyone can simply cancel his membership. I also think that a mixture of VOD and membership on the same site does not work, you should decide what to offer.
I'm also not sure if the new approch is really "modern" like you state below. Of course "on demand" is what everyone wants. But the content always was available "on demand" (see what you like from the complete membership site when you want), i'm not sure if paying for every single clips is also that modern. I prefer "flatrate" like models, e.g. like Netflix.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:22pm
From a business standpoint moving to VOD and cams which I assume makes a ton more than membership is a smart move and I have no problem with that.

What I take issue with is the way in which they refuse to admit this, instead they say they will continue to support the membership model more than ever, or that once HB+ is released we'll be getting daily membership content. Basically withholding any real clarity so they can string along loyal customers to squeeze every penny out of a format they clearly have little interest in catering for.

Stop hiding away and address concerns. We are aware that you want to branch out into and expand the VOD section. We are aware that you are supposedly working on HB+ which will be God's gift to man. What is the current situation with the membership site?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Oct 19th, 2018 at 3:56pm

Femalebicepsfan wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 11:43am:
Many good points, I also agree with the most.
I can't tell if they really earn more mit VOD ar not, but I can at least understand the approach and that people at least think that. But don't forget with the membership you have kind of a regular "income" from the members. I did't spend a single cent here since I canceled my membership. I don't like cams and i generaly find them (also on all other sites) way to expensive. I also don't like the usabilty and the renting model (instead of buying) of the VOD site. I would for example pay for something like an armwrestling tournament, but renting a more or less expensive VOD only because a short armwrestling match in in (the rest is often not interestung to me) does not pay off for me. Before they got $13.95 every month from me for years. If VOD is the future of herbiceps they should at least be honest and tell their customers. But I totally agree with you, none is forced to pay and everyone can simply cancel his membership. I also think that a mixture of VOD and membership on the same site does not work, you should decide what to offer.
I'm also not sure if the new approch is really "modern" like you state below. Of course "on demand" is what everyone wants. But the content always was available "on demand" (see what you like from the complete membership site when you want), i'm not sure if paying for every single clips is also that modern. I prefer "flatrate" like models, e.g. like Netflix.


the Netflix thing, good point I have to say, I agree with it, but I guess you got what I meant to say.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Oct 19th, 2018 at 3:57pm

Plop13 wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Stop hiding away and address concerns. We are aware that you want to branch out into and expand the VOD section. We are aware that you are supposedly working on HB+ which will be God's gift to man. What is the current situation with the membership site?


not sure if you are talking to me? like I am working on HB+??? lol cuz I wish! :)))
btw no need to say I am just a customer and I was just telling my opinion about the overall crazy situation, nothing more than this :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Anon321 on Oct 19th, 2018 at 6:25pm
Just a reminder: HBC+ has been updated with at least 6 VODs in the last week. And not just your average, run-of-the-mill stuff either. Two of them are VODs that I personally have been waiting for, and I had hoped that they'd come to the membership website first:

-"Meet Louise Rogers' Muscles": she posted a pic from her Sean Nelson photoshoot a week ago, and she looked other-worldly.

-"Lauren Quinn -Extreme Muscles": she has been posting pics of this particular shoot for probably half a year now, and she was also in peak form.

But now I'll have to cough up the dough to finally see these spectacular videos, which combined will cost 160c ($16). Very frustrating, especially considering this isn't the first time.

Yeon Woo Jhi (a personal favourite of mine for a LONG time) posted a short video of her shoot with Sean Nelson way back in November of 2017. But she had also been posting pics from her shoot as EARLY AS MAY 2017.

And so I got to waiting. And waiting. "How long could they hold onto such amazing footage?" I wondered. Well, a while, because it wasn't until May 17th that it was released. 6 months, or HALF A YEAR. (I'm referring to "Yeon Woo Jhi - Bursting with Muscle")

And it was released as a VOD too, no less But not to be outdone, the boys also posted two other VODs of Yeon over the course of a month. All told, I spent 195c ($19.5) on those three videos. It wasn't until July 11th that new videos of Yeon actually made it to the member site, and to add insult to injury, it was only two short videos and neither contained the good parts from the shoot. If you wanted to see the stuff Yeon and Sean Nelson had been posting for nearly a year (at that point), you'd have to pay for a membership and a half worth of credits.

But I'm the fool for paying, I guess. "You should have just waited," you say, but I disagree. At first HBC+ was used as an early look at stuff that would eventually ("eventually") make it to the member site, or see extra, special bits (like those emasculation vids that I'm surprised people like). That's fine. It's a business, and extra content behind pay-walls is standard.

However, overtime it went from hosting "extra" content to being the sole place to get good footage. The scraps are now dropped onto the member site (if they're even dropped at all).

After all this, what I'm frustrated about is the struggle of seeing pics or Instagram vids from Sean Nelson's AMAZING shoots, but then having to wait months or more AS WELL as paying a great deal of cash to see them. And THEN -- if you have Buddhist monk -levels of patience to hold out -- the shoots aren't even put up on the member site at all, or at least in a timely fashion.

Of course, like everyone, I can understand the shift to VOD. In the past half year I've probably bought enough VODs to equal around 10 months of memberships. And I guess that's the whole point, and that I'm part of the problem in the first place: I wanted to see those vids of Yeon SO BAD that I guiltily forked the cash. If everyone here had iron wills and patience then the VODs wouldn't be nearly as successful. It's just frustrating to have to feel guilty for acquiring content when, if I wait, it MIGHT just end up on the member site (but it usually doesn't).

-----------

I'm not going to bitch and moan to Mike, saying "Why don't you care about us?!" I don't think that helps and only serves to make him and the team bitter. I just wanted to express here how my feelings of frustration are a result of the VOD posting schedule. Just my own experience, others might feel different.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Oct 20th, 2018 at 4:23am

xhero wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 3:57pm:

Plop13 wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Stop hiding away and address concerns. We are aware that you want to branch out into and expand the VOD section. We are aware that you are supposedly working on HB+ which will be God's gift to man. What is the current situation with the membership site?


not sure if you are talking to me? like I am working on HB+??? lol cuz I wish! :)))
btw no need to say I am just a customer and I was just telling my opinion about the overall crazy situation, nothing more than this :)

Nah dude not at all, just voicing my views on the situation then the last bit was directed at the guys running the site.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Oct 20th, 2018 at 5:18am
OK I misunderstood it  ;D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by GirlzGoneBig on Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:19am
you guys do know there is now download functionality with the
VOD's. right?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:09pm
Amazing post, my anonymous friend.  Thanks for being a loyal customer.  Your tortured existence has pulled on my heart strings on this windy Sunday afternoon.

Where sometimes you guys attribute intention on our parts, there is none...I usually edit the best stuff last, or review it after its been edited cause its easier to do the clips of the shoots I care less about...same for the posting part...

anyhow, these files aren't published yet (I don't think)...but you should be able to cut and paste into your browser to access them



<img src="/vidthumbs/Yeon_Whoo_Jho_17NYPro_Dress_Big_Guns_HD.jpg"></a>
<li><a href="/members/hdvids/Yeon_Whoo_Jho_17NYPro_Dress_Big_Guns_1080p.mp4">Big Guns (mp4-1080)</a> (0.0 MB) (10.21.18)</li>
<li><a href="/members/hdvids/Yeon_Whoo_Jho_17NYPro_Dress_Big_Guns_480p.mp4">Big Guns (mp4-480)</a> (0.0 MB) (10.21.18)</li>
<li><a href="/members/hdvids/Yeon_Whoo_Jho_17NYPro_Dress_Big_Guns_720p.mp4">Big Guns (mp4-720)</a> (0.0 MB) (10.21.18)</li>

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<li><a href="/members/hdvids/Yeon_Whoo_Jho_17NYPro_Dress_Measurements_720p.mp4">Measurements (mp4-720)</a> (0.0 MB) (10.21.18)</li>

<img src="/vidthumbs/Yeon_Whoo_Jho_17NYPro_Dress_Photo_Posing_HD.jpg"></a>
<li><a href="/members/hdvids/Yeon_Whoo_Jho_17NYPro_Dress_Photo_Posing_1080p.mp4">Photo Posing (mp4-1080)</a> (0.0 MB) (10.21.18)</li>
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<li><a href="/members/hdvids/Yeon_Whoo_Jho_17NYPro_Dress_Photo_Posing_720p.mp4">Photo Posing (mp4-720)</a> (0.0 MB) (10.21.18)</li>

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<li><a href="/members/hdvids/Yeon_Whoo_Jho_17NYPro_Dress_Serious_Arms_480p.mp4">Serious Arms (mp4-480)</a> (0.0 MB) (10.21.18)</li>
<li><a href="/members/hdvids/Yeon_Whoo_Jho_17NYPro_Dress_Serious_Arms_720p.mp4">Serious Arms (mp4-720)</a> (0.0 MB) (10.21.18)</li>



<img src="/vidthumbs/Yeon_Whoo_Jho_17NYPro_FOS_Metal_Planks_HD.jpg"></a>
<li><a href="/members/hdvids/Yeon_Whoo_Jho_17NYPro_FOS_Metal_Planks_1080p.mp4">Yeon Whoo Jho (mp4-1080)</a> (0.0 MB) (10.21.18)</li>
<li><a href="/members/hdvids/Yeon_Whoo_Jho_17NYPro_FOS_Metal_Planks_480p.mp4">Yeon Whoo Jho (mp4-480)</a> (0.0 MB) (10.21.18)</li>
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Anon321 wrote on Oct 19th, 2018 at 6:25pm:
Just a reminder: HBC+ has been updated with at least 6 VODs in the last week. And not just your average, run-of-the-mill stuff either. Two of them are VODs that I personally have been waiting for, and I had hoped that they'd come to the membership website first:

-"Meet Louise Rogers' Muscles": she posted a pic from her Sean Nelson photoshoot a week ago, and she looked other-worldly.

-"Lauren Quinn -Extreme Muscles": she has been posting pics of this particular shoot for probably half a year now, and she was also in peak form.

But now I'll have to cough up the dough to finally see these spectacular videos, which combined will cost 160c ($16). Very frustrating, especially considering this isn't the first time.

Yeon Woo Jhi (a personal favourite of mine for a LONG time) posted a short video of her shoot with Sean Nelson way back in November of 2017. But she had also been posting pics from her shoot as EARLY AS MAY 2017.

And so I got to waiting. And waiting. "How long could they hold onto such amazing footage?" I wondered. Well, a while, because it wasn't until May 17th that it was released. 6 months, or HALF A YEAR. (I'm referring to "Yeon Woo Jhi - Bursting with Muscle")

And it was released as a VOD too, no less But not to be outdone, the boys also posted two other VODs of Yeon over the course of a month. All told, I spent 195c ($19.5) on those three videos. It wasn't until July 11th that new videos of Yeon actually made it to the member site, and to add insult to injury, it was only two short videos and neither contained the good parts from the shoot. If you wanted to see the stuff Yeon and Sean Nelson had been posting for nearly a year (at that point), you'd have to pay for a membership and a half worth of credits.

But I'm the fool for paying, I guess. "You should have just waited," you say, but I disagree. At first HBC+ was used as an early look at stuff that would eventually ("eventually") make it to the member site, or see extra, special bits (like those emasculation vids that I'm surprised people like). That's fine. It's a business, and extra content behind pay-walls is standard.

However, overtime it went from hosting "extra" content to being the sole place to get good footage. The scraps are now dropped onto the member site (if they're even dropped at all).

After all this, what I'm frustrated about is the struggle of seeing pics or Instagram vids from Sean Nelson's AMAZING shoots, but then having to wait months or more AS WELL as paying a great deal of cash to see them. And THEN -- if you have Buddhist monk -levels of patience to hold out -- the shoots aren't even put up on the member site at all, or at least in a timely fashion.

Of course, like everyone, I can understand the shift to VOD. In the past half year I've probably bought enough VODs to equal around 10 months of memberships. And I guess that's the whole point, and that I'm part of the problem in the first place: I wanted to see those vids of Yeon SO BAD that I guiltily forked the cash. If everyone here had iron wills and patience then the VODs wouldn't be nearly as successful. It's just frustrating to have to feel guilty for acquiring content when, if I wait, it MIGHT just end up on the member site (but it usually doesn't).

-----------

I'm not going to bitch and moan to Mike, saying "Why don't you care about us?!" I don't think that helps and only serves to make him and the team bitter. I just wanted to express here how my feelings of frustration are a result of the VOD posting schedule. Just my own experience, others might feel different.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:36pm
We've mostly settled on how we're shooting from now on, and how we are operating from a what goes into our VOD product vs what goes into the members area.  Its still a work in progress to some extent, but I wanted to let you guys know where its at and what to expect on both this site and the upcoming new site.

The old clips and pics will mostly stay here or elsewhere as an archive and we may sometimes go back and re-feature something older and glorious, but mostly it will be an archive that members who are paying will have access to.

We will continue to source members videos and pictures from shooters like Sean, but certain types of footage will be saved exclusively for VOD sales.  The more premium the model, the better the chance that at least some of the shooting will be for VOD exclusively.  The more time-consuming, expensive, difficult from a shooting and editing perspective, and the more valuable the footage is in terms of potential sales, the more likely it will be only for VOD.  That just makes sense based on how we want to operate and our cost structure.  That said, I will always make it a point to include a healthy amount of material, in fact likely most of what we shoot in terms of quantity, for the members section or to post as free on the new site.

Whether you decide membership or becoming a regular VOD buyer or both is worth it, is solely up to you.  I can tell you that the feedback we've received on our VODs has been largely very positive, and that we are working on making the products and the selection better and better as we go on.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Oct 22nd, 2018 at 12:04am
Based in your recent post in this forum, for the site will be two type of customers: class A (VOD) and class B (membership site) I think is disrespectful to make this type of clasification, for the VOD the most recent material and for the member maybe some old footage. Also is very disrespectful for the models to put in categories but it's clear that you want more money and the membership site it's no the place for that. >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Oct 22nd, 2018 at 1:14am
Thank you for finally addressing the state of things, I respect that you want to put the best content on VOD but is the volume of content on the membership site likely to increase soon? One update (a few small updates over a couple of days is basically a single update) per month is pretty underwhelming compared with what you used to put out and considering how old some of the clips being put out are.

I really hope you address this as this is the main issue for many of us.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Anon321 on Oct 22nd, 2018 at 4:45am

Mike wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:09pm:
Amazing post, my anonymous friend.† Thanks for being a loyal customer.† Your tortured existence has pulled on my heart strings on this windy Sunday afternoon.

Where sometimes you guys attribute intention on our parts, there is none...I usually edit the best stuff last, or review it after its been edited cause its easier to do the clips of the shoots I care less about...same for the posting part...

anyhow, these files aren't published yet (I don't think)...but you should be able to cut and paste into your browser to access them



<img src="/vidthumbs/Yeon_Whoo_Jho_17NYPro_Dress_Big_Guns_HD.jpg"></a>
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Wow Mike, thank you!!! I don't know what to say. I can tell now that you are just very busy with handling all of the projects, and not intentionally negligent or spiteful towards the community like they assume. I just hope others will see this perspective rather than continuing to be angry all the time.

God, if only Yeon had more planks, she could have gotten close to the record... hahaha. Still amazing, thanks!


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Oct 22nd, 2018 at 5:28am

Anon321 wrote on Oct 22nd, 2018 at 4:45am:

Mike wrote on Oct 21st, 2018 at 11:09pm:
Amazing post, my anonymous friend.† Thanks for being a loyal customer.† Your tortured existence has pulled on my heart strings on this windy Sunday afternoon.

Where sometimes you guys attribute intention on our parts, there is none...I usually edit the best stuff last, or review it after its been edited cause its easier to do the clips of the shoots I care less about...same for the posting part...

anyhow, these files aren't published yet (I don't think)...but you should be able to cut and paste into your browser to access them



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Wow Mike, thank you!!! I don't know what to say. I can tell now that you are just very busy with handling all of the projects, and not intentionally negligent or spiteful towards the community like they assume. I just hope others will see this perspective rather than continuing to be angry all the time.

God, if only Yeon had more planks, she could have gotten close to the record... hahaha. Still amazing, thanks!

;D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Oct 22nd, 2018 at 6:23am
Mike, can you do VOD a little cheaper for members?
They are so expensive fot their quality man!!!
And please ..you shoot Gilian Ward last year and haven`t posted nothing yet!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Nov 6th, 2018 at 2:29am
As usual they put a few updates and again the customers have to wait weeks and weeks. >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Nov 8th, 2018 at 4:56pm
they claim to have a solution by having the newer clips on the VOD site and then will be uploading more frequently with older clips here but then nothing for 2 weeks lol

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Nov 11th, 2018 at 4:39pm
In the same way that I complain about the lack of updates I have to congratule the site for the last updates, I hope that you maintain the regular site because there are many people more interested in this kind of site instead of VOD. If you maintain the site with updates of great quality I will maintain as a loyal customer. :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Nov 25th, 2018 at 12:59am
Planning something big for cyber monday in terms of updates?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Nov 25th, 2018 at 9:36pm
Any armwrestling clips coming soon? Theres no denying that there hasn't been a decent armwrestling update it quite some time

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Nov 25th, 2018 at 11:49pm
Again as usual we have to wait the generosity of the webmaster to post an update. We only get promises of a fabulous new site that never appears, other sites have regular updates and when they delay them they apologize to the members of the site, but in Herbiceps we only have silence or much worst excuses.  >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Nov 26th, 2018 at 12:24am
You're all doing it wrong.

I see that you've shot some armwrestling with Syleena Adams, are we likely to see that content any time soon?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Dec 1st, 2018 at 7:41am
Any armwrestling updates coming? Or any updates at all??  :-/

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 1st, 2018 at 12:10pm
It's time that the owners of the site be honest with the customers and told us if herbiceps is dead and they only care about the vod. They want more money and it's ok but some of us pay money for nothing. >:( :(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by zakaka44 on Dec 1st, 2018 at 1:21pm
New website this month opened  :D herbiceps.com members are not enough to update ;D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Gofigure on Dec 2nd, 2018 at 7:40pm
Personally, I think the lack of regular updates is down to sheer laziness and a complete contempt for client service. It utterly baffles me why so many members maintain a roll-over membership. I myself am a very intermittent member, occasionally joining when I see content that appeals, but am rapidly disheartened when I realise the footage dates back to 2015.

One of the main pleasures of following female bodybuilding is being able to witness the transformation of various athletes...gaining size, improving symmetry, getting super-cut etc., tacitly applauding the athletes we love. This is impossible to do if much, most, of the material is retrospective.

I would be more than happy to maintain a regular subscription if I felt that the contract was respected by the service provider. Alas, it is not, and so I remain a very sporadic subscriber.

The mind boggles!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Dec 3rd, 2018 at 2:31am

Gofigure wrote on Dec 2nd, 2018 at 7:40pm:
Personally, I think the lack of regular updates is down to sheer laziness and a complete contempt for client service. It utterly baffles me why so many members maintain a roll-over membership. I myself am a very intermittent member, occasionally joining when I see content that appeals, but am rapidly disheartened when I realise the footage dates back to 2015.

One of the main pleasures of following female bodybuilding is being able to witness the transformation of various athletes...gaining size, improving symmetry, getting super-cut etc., tacitly applauding the athletes we love. This is impossible to do if much, most, of the material is retrospective.

I would be more than happy to maintain a regular subscription if I felt that the contract was respected by the service provider. Alas, it is not, and so I remain a very sporadic subscriber.

The mind boggles!!

I (and surely the other members of the HB team) genuinely appreciate your business and the time you took to post this specific feedback for us.

I think every viewer or customer is looking for a different experience and our years in the business have taught us that we've got different types of customers here. While frequent, "new content" updates are what are most interesting to you, others are more interested in different products.†There are members of the site who love the "remember her?" type of updates. There are members who most prefer the specialized VOD content. Our goal is to serve as many customers as we can as well as we can. I'm not seeking any pats on the back, but I truly believe our content quality is at an all-time high.†

We want you to visit often and hopefully to find something interesting each time you come.† And if it's interesting enough, we hope you'll make some purchase decisions that work for you and feel good about it.

Again, thank you for your feedback and for your business. We hope you will give us the opportunity to earn your business for years to come. 

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Dec 7th, 2018 at 4:32pm
Tre: I've been a paying subscriber to HB since 2002 or 03. I understand, based on that longevity, that members have differing tastes. Some drool over the prospect of multiple minute videos. I'm usually on short time and much prefer the photo galleries, or videos up to 90 seconds in length.

The biggest problem can be summarized in your last comment about earning members' business. As of today, it's been 4 weeks since the last photo gallery update (Nov. 9 to Dec. 7). There was a 3 week gap between clip updates (Nov. 10 to Dec. 2). The 2018 "record" for time between updates has been 33 days, and 30 days another time.

It's not an issue of content quality; all the stuff is well done. It's an issue of content quantity, or enough to keep paying members interested. In short, HB is not keeping up with other sites and is becoming less competitive.

As an example, I also currently belong to HD Physiques. They update couple times per week. In the past 12-13 months, I've been in Kriv Studios and FT Video. Each of those updates at least weekly, and usually more than weekly.

While HB seems to have a near monopoly on VOD right now, others will enter the field. It's a matter of basic economics. And, of course, HB also has to compete with free sites like Girls with Muscle. If all HB ends up offering is a few VODs each week, people will wonder: why bother with the rest.

If HB is serious about wanting to remain competitive across the broad spectrum of services, improvement is needed. I'm OK for now, as I pay just $10 per month, billed quarterly, for a roll over membership. But you guys need to understand that the markets have changed in 15 years and maybe need to do some re-thinking about the overall business plan.

Cheers!† † Shav


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 8th, 2018 at 11:35pm
updates will be much more regular and automated on the new site when it opens...your complaint is more than fair, and I apologize for not doing a better job with updates over the last year or so like I intended...no excuses, my bad

as you can probably tell, our business model has been changing a bit with more focus on VOD than before (when we had none) just as when we opened cam and before there was none...the goal is to streamline it all and have it make sense from our perspective, the models' perspective and from your perspective...tough to get there until the new site opens

its a rational choice to be an occasional joiner, for the time being...and we respect that choice

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Dec 9th, 2018 at 6:16pm
These apologies would seem a lot more sincere if they were at least backed up with some action. You apologise for not having released a photoset in 30 days and then don't even rectify the problem?

As always, I'm at a loss as to how archaic the system for posting updates must be. I can kind of imagine why the video updates can take so long given so many of them are essentially what's left over from an edited VOD shoot, but meanwhile the photos are just sitting around wasting away. I assume that even your new focus the VOD's all have accompanying photosets and yet these can't be posted? They don't serve any purpose elsewhere so why not just post them? It's crazy that the model's instagram pages have these photosets months (years?) prior to when they finally officially see the light of day on the site.

Unless of course, you're saving those for upcoming PODs to satisfy the types of customers who love paying extra for former subscription content.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Dec 9th, 2018 at 6:35pm
the working up of a few sample images for models is done separately from the editing and posting of entire sets of photos...but I understand how it appears that the two are the same

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 12th, 2018 at 11:24pm
I really don't understand how the site take care of the loyal customers and only maintain the VOD section, I know that for some people the videos aren't expensive but for me there are expensive and I really prefer the classic website, I have been a customer since 2008 but these last two years I don't really feel any respect to the people that pay to get a good service. :-[

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Dec 14th, 2018 at 8:17pm

Mike wrote on Dec 9th, 2018 at 6:35pm:
the working up of a few sample images for models is done separately from the editing and posting of entire sets of photos...but I understand how it appears that the two are the same

Then maybe you can understand how it appears repeatedly not posting any updates and screwing over customers are the same thing.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 17th, 2018 at 2:07am
No update maybe as a gift for Christmas please :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Dec 18th, 2018 at 5:44pm
Mike, what is going on? Updates have been horrible for this past year. Yes u have introduced us to some new models and that has been great but can u be honest with us, are u saving alot of material for the new site?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 19th, 2018 at 5:49pm
There is no problem they don't care about the customers for a long time ago. We pay for a service that doesn't exist, it's our fault for spending money for nothing.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Dec 20th, 2018 at 5:17pm
Exactly. As i I already wrote: If you want things to change, you have to tell them by canceling your membership. If you go on paying you will tell them "everything fine, please go on exactly like that".
I was a long time member and canceled some month ago. Unfortunately I accidentally deleted all the HB clips i collected over my complete membership time about 2 month ago (it were a lot of armwrestling and feat of strenght clips. I also watch most of the flexing clips, but i don't save them as i'm mostly interested in armwrestling). I thought about rejoining for a month to download the clips i like again. But i decided against it. Not because of the $13.95, but i don't want to give money to people that are kidding their customers like herbiceps does it at the moment. For the same reason I don't buy rent any VODs, althought their are some great clips i would really like to see.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Dec 21st, 2018 at 1:48am
I suppose the one good thing to come out of this incompetence is that not even memberships are cancelled on time.  ;D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kevin S. on Dec 21st, 2018 at 4:59am
I've also cancelled my membership and joined two new female muscle sites that actually have multiple updates a week.† I would also like to see the VODs, but I've never liked purchasing credits or purchasing each video clip type of pricing structure.

I completely agree with @Gofigure when he says:


Gofigure wrote on Dec 2nd, 2018 at 7:40pm:
One of the main pleasures of following female bodybuilding is being able to witness the transformation of various athletes...gaining size, improving symmetry, getting super-cut etc., tacitly applauding the athletes we love. This is impossible to do if much, most, of the material is retrospective."†


I've always requested the vault on HB is emptied and current content is posted.† Sure it's nice to see older footage in some instances, but I'm more interested in seeing current material.† Lately, I've found certain IG pages of female bodybuilders that are nice enough to post recent video clips, which allows their followers to enjoy seeing their fitness journey.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Dec 21st, 2018 at 6:57am
May i ask which sites you have joined?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kevin S. on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 2:48am

Femalebicepsfan wrote on Dec 21st, 2018 at 6:57am:
May i ask which sites you have joined?


HD Physiques and Premium Physiques may not be new sites, but I hadn't been a member of either site for some time, which makes a lot of new material I'll have access to.† I've cancelled my three month membership to HerBiceps and joined HD Physiques for three months, with a one month membership to Premium Phyisques on a combo deal being offered.† HerBiceps still hasn't updated since 12/2 and I'm tired of waiting for the main HerBiceps site to bless us with an update, so I took my business elsewhere until I start seeing regular updates on HerBiceps or HerBicepsPlus actually launch.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by ratsnake on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 5:02am
This site sucks and gets worse all the time, I have joined on and off since 2004, the main goal of the owners is to get you to view the cam shows and remain a rollover customer. 1 update in the last 20 days? what a freaking joke.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by macdis on Dec 22nd, 2018 at 11:31pm
I've been on the site for a very long time.  Things started going to hell when Mike tried Team Herbiceps.  I've finally had it with the total lack of attention to updates and quit. Trying HD Physiques for a month.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 12:17am
It wouldn't be so bad if they just came clean about winding down the membership site. The appearance of Chelsea Keyasko on the VOD site all but confirms her armwrestling matches with Syleena Adams will be for a premium price. It's sad to see how in little more than a year the VOD's have transformed from being a nice supplement to the main site with meatier content, to just being content obviously intended for the main site now listed at a higher price.

It's gone from the most interesting content being in VOD to all the interesting content being in VOD. Armwrestling, a key part of the main site, being seemingly exclusive to VOD now is an absolute joke.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 5:39am
Just an idea, my two cents.
The website, this way does not make sense anymore and everyone is complaining.
For HBC guys, if I was you I would think about something like this:
- a very small annual membership cost.
- let the website the way it is, like a huge archive
- just a monthly teaser about what's going on in HBC. (Maybe 10 clips 2/3 min long).
This way would allow people spending very less money, not feeling joked but treated, would still give some content without any extra effort from your work and most probably leading customers to buy some videos on HBC.
Free access for regular HBC customers indeed.

Not sure if I'm telling something right, but in my opinion this would be a pretty good point to start, the main thing is being clear with customers, I'm feeling that this lack of info about what's really happening is the most disappointing thing and honestly a monthly membership without updates, or anyway with update that randomly happen is not a good treat.
It's also visible that updates are made with rush, with tons of no working links and a visible lack of organization.
I think it's time to be clear and say "guys, this site is over" but coming back to the beginning, it still can be used to lead people on HBC and also make more reasonable money and happy customers.
I personally think that an annual 20/30$ membership fee would be more than acceptable for everyone, if this grant the access to the whole archive (maybe with the whole femflex included) and a monthly HBC teasers update like mentioned before.
I guess it can be easily done, not sure what other people think, but I would be more than happy for something like that.


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by MisterM on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 10:48am
Something's got to give, because we're not even getting picture updates anymore. The last picture galleries were uploaded SIX WEEKS AGO. It's unacceptable. There either need to be at least monthly updates or you need to refund the money to all of us who pay yearly memberships, and just say "our bad, guys, we didn't deliver what we promised with the membership site" and wind things down. But this is absurd. It's been the same line about "wait for the new site" for nearly a year now. Some of us have been your most loyal customers, and I hope you get from reading this thread that many of us are deeply disappointed.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 2:41pm
Instead of continually posting here; unless you guys get off on venting; try the "Contact Us" link on the site's home page.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 4:48pm

6789shav wrote on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 2:41pm:
Instead of continually posting here; unless you guys get off on venting; try the "Contact Us" link on the site's home page.

Well they obviously check the boards given that they reply within a day to most threads regarding issues purchasing VODs. Which I can only assume is a piss take because there's no way you could be so oblivious as to willfully ignore all concerns about the membership site then immediately address all those regarding your biggest money-spinner when the climate is as it is.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 7:08pm

Quote:
Just an idea, my two cents.
The website, this way does not make sense anymore and everyone is complaining.
For HBC guys, if I was you I would think about something like this:
- a very small annual membership cost.
- let the website the way it is, like a huge archive
- just a monthly teaser about what's going on in HBC. (Maybe 10 clips 2/3 min long).
This way would allow people spending very less money, not feeling joked but treated, would still give some content without any extra effort from your work and most probably leading customers to buy some videos on HBC.
Free access for regular HBC customers indeed.

Not sure if I'm telling something right, but in my opinion this would be a pretty good point to start, the main thing is being clear with customers, I'm feeling that this lack of info about what's really happening is the most disappointing thing and honestly a monthly membership without updates, or anyway with update that randomly happen is not a good treat.
It's also visible that updates are made with rush, with tons of no working links and a visible lack of organization.
I think it's time to be clear and say "guys, this site is over" but coming back to the beginning, it still can be used to lead people on HBC and also make more reasonable money and happy customers.
I personally think that an annual 20/30$ membership fee would be more than acceptable for everyone, if this grant the access to the whole archive (maybe with the whole femflex included) and a monthly HBC teasers update like mentioned before.
I guess it can be easily done, not sure what other people think, but I would be more than happy for something like that.

Good morning! And thank you for these suggestions.

We appreciate all the customers and guests taking the time to share your thoughts with us. We do understand everyone's frustration and we're working diligently to get the new member site opened, but how many times can we make that exact same statement until it just becomes white noise?† To those who have said or suggested, we "do not care about members or the member site", that simply is not the case. Yes, we understand why you feel that way, but the majority of our programming/development hours - which are a finite resource - have been going into getting this new venture launched. When we have a substantive update - loosely defined as something along the lines of "beta testing has begun!" - we're going to let you know.†

Regarding pricing for the annual membership, I took a recent survey of several member sites and the average 1-year membership is about $159.† Ours is just $90, which is more than 40% below market price for similar products.

Update/recap:

1) We're committed to improving delivery for the HB (future HB+) members. The member site is not going anywhere.†
2) We're committed to improving products available to our VOD customers.
3) We're committed to improving the viewer experience on webcam.
4) We genuinely appreciate your support for all these years and want to get this new product opened so that the next era of HB can begin.† We underestimated how complex the development would be and overestimated how quickly we could open - that's totally our bad and we apologize for that. We're going to make sure we do everything we reasonably can for you to (hopefully) feel rewarded for your loyalty.
5) We hope you will give the new site a chance once it's open.
6) Happy Holidays to everyone!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Dec 24th, 2018 at 4:16am
More excuses, zero updates

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Dec 24th, 2018 at 4:01pm

Tre wrote on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 7:08pm:
To those who have said or suggested, we "do not care about members or the member site", that simply is not the case. Yes, we understand why you feel that way, but the majority of our programming/development hours - which are a finite resource - have been going into getting this new venture launched

Yep only more excuses that does not help the paying members.
You take money from customers and don't deliver an acceptable service in return. That's exactly what i would call "not care aout customers". It's as simple as that. If you leave the old membersite up and running and take money for it you have to make sure that it still gets regular updates. If you don't have enough resources you have to hire people, stop selling memberships or figure out any other solution. As long as you sell something you have to make sure that you can deliver the service, resources are not the concern of the customers.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by duffman on Dec 24th, 2018 at 7:49pm
I know that a lot of members are frustrated because there are no updates. But you guys always forget that herbiceps.com is a huge website with thousands of clips and pics. Just the access to this database is worth the 90 dollars per year. If you are just here for the updates, cancel the membership and wait till the new site opens. But if you want access to thousands of pictures and clips without having to download everything a herbiceps membership is still a very good deal. There is nothing wrong with a website that has no updates. You pay for the access.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Dec 24th, 2018 at 10:38pm

duffman wrote on Dec 24th, 2018 at 7:49pm:
I know that a lot of members are frustrated because there are no updates. But you guys always forget that herbiceps.com is a huge website with thousands of clips and pics. Just the access to this database is worth the 90 dollars per year. If you are just here for the updates, cancel the membership and wait till the new site opens. But if you want access to thousands of pictures and clips without having to download everything a herbiceps membership is still a very good deal. There is nothing wrong with a website that has no updates. You pay for the access.


that's what I meant, but honestly 90$ for just the access, although talking about a huge one, is way too much. I simply wouldn't pay that much.
as you go back in time clips are no more mp4, quality is lower and they are shorter, not HB guys fault indeed, just what technology allowed in the past years.
but no, sorry, the only access without regular update is not a deal that worth 90$, as always, just my 2 cents.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Dec 24th, 2018 at 10:51pm

Tre wrote on Dec 23rd, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Regarding pricing for the annual membership, I took a recent survey of several member sites and the average 1-year membership is about $159.† Ours is just $90, which is more than 40% below market price for similar products.



Tre,
1st thank you for taking time for your kind reply.
anyway let me explain better, I was referring to the case of a standing website, suggesting to quit this random update thing and being clear once for ever about a huge archive with some monthly teasers, in that case I was suggesting what I consider a fair price.

As replied before, I do not consider 90$ a fair price to access an archive, even if huge.
but that's my point of view. So, that's just my feeling, maybe others disagree and are fine with it.

as a last note, yes, a lot of good intentions but honestly, the way it is right now do not worth the monthly membership rate. You must admit it's not acceptable. And it's clearly out of control by the moment the most update are full of wrong links.
I'm sure everyone would be more than happy to enjoy the new website, but the way it is right now is disappointing.

Anyway, hope you'll be able to deliver an amazing website for the 2019.
website things apart, wish you, the whole HBC family and all the guys here a very very Merry Christmas and a† happy new year!


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by MisterM on Dec 25th, 2018 at 1:33am

duffman wrote on Dec 24th, 2018 at 7:49pm:
I know that a lot of members are frustrated because there are no updates. But you guys always forget that herbiceps.com is a huge website with thousands of clips and pics. Just the access to this database is worth the 90 dollars per year. If you are just here for the updates, cancel the membership and wait till the new site opens. But if you want access to thousands of pictures and clips without having to download everything a herbiceps membership is still a very good deal. There is nothing wrong with a website that has no updates. You pay for the access.


The problem is that's not what we were promised. Some of us re-upped because of promises that updates would be more regular in coming months, and that the new site would be open by the end of 2018. Neither has happened. It's like paying $90 for a ticket to see Drake in concert and then you show up and someone plays a recording of Drake performing instead. Not the same thing.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Dec 25th, 2018 at 6:21am
I wouldn't even pay 9$ for a Drake concert lol  ;D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Dec 26th, 2018 at 3:58am
Last update? Not enough. Get it together, would ypu please...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Dec 27th, 2018 at 12:25am
We can assume armwrestling is no more.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kinky Desires on Jan 7th, 2019 at 7:29pm
I must say, I'm quite surprised that nobody has posted here yet to complain that there haven't been any updates 'since last year!'† ;D

I was considering doing it for a laugh shortly after midnight on new years day, but it kinda slipped my mind with all the partying that was going on around me lol

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Jan 7th, 2019 at 8:54pm
i think everyone has given up at this point. half ass updates with corrupted files every 2-3 weeks lol

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jan 8th, 2019 at 11:04pm
A new year but the same lack of updates, waiting for the non sense excuses  >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:08am
Let's hope they have enough capital to stay afloat till the new site is released, I guess.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Jan 9th, 2019 at 4:08pm

bombomper wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:08am:
Let's hope they have enough capital to stay afloat till the new site is released, I guess.

At this point I feel there's no way they would be so disregarding of the membership customers unless the webcams were making them exponentially more profit. I suspect this is the case, bottom line is that they probably make the same from a handful of webcam customers than they do from 20 long term members.

HerBicepsPlus just seems like a further way to push everything worthwhile onto a premium platform while maintaining they're still putting out content at a cheap price by providing a load of standard flexing videos the like of which I could find on YouTube

The lack of transparency is dissapointing to say the least, people asked nocely for so long and they just refuse to go into detail about anything regarding the membership site. Only for the PR man to come in with an insincere apology and no explanation, or Mike to spout off some condescending remark.

I can't say I won't be purchasing agajn because I'm a sucker for FOS and armwrestling vids, but I'll only be buying when there's a large enough backlog and once you've moved FOS onto premium I can't see myself being arsed to purchase at all.

Hopefully I'm proven wrong and you guys get it together after this shambles but whatever.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 9th, 2019 at 5:45pm

bombomper wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 1:08am:
Let's hope they have enough capital to stay afloat till the new site is released, I guess.


I think we'll make it  ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 9th, 2019 at 6:33pm
"At this point I feel there's no way they would be so disregarding of the membership customers unless the webcams were making them exponentially more profit. I suspect this is the case....."

--- Guys, we make much more money from the webcam site than we do from the members site.  That's been the case for many years now.  Its not close.  The membership site has and continues to be a nice business, but we realized a few years ago that the tail was wagging the dog when it came to how much time and effort we put into it. 

Over the last 12 months, when we started rolling out our VODs onto the webcam platform, its been stunning how popular they've become.  Customers are buying the videos and coming back for more, and hopefully we continue to do a good job fulfilling that demand.  That demand is much stronger than is the demand for members material; meaning we can much more successfully monetize that way.  As a result, we are able to fly in more models, pay them more, and give our customers more of what they really want.

HerBiceps members site is changing, and the new site development has been super painful for us and super slow for a bunch of reasons.  One of the big reasons is our business model is changing with the times.  We have to adapt to what people want to buy and that's proving to be personal interactions over cam with our models and high quality VODs of our best models.  You can browse the VOD store to get a quick idea of what is selling, or sort by popular to see. 

"The lack of transparency is dissapointing to say the least"

ask away, there's nothing secretive going on...what would you like to know?




Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 9th, 2019 at 6:41pm

Plop13 wrote on Dec 27th, 2018 at 12:25am:
We can assume armwrestling is no more.


We'll be posting some armwrestling, but we will be often using that stuff in our VODs situationally.  I saw somebody say something similar about measurements...much less true in terms of usage. 

One of the biggest changes is what we're focused on shooting and how we utilize our shooting resources...going forward, we are going to be putting more focus on premium shoots with VOD-worthy models, but we'll still be sending Sean to national level and pro shows and many of those models are first timers and won't be delivering VOD-type stuff in the shoots. Even when shooting with VOD worthy models, there will often be free clips from those shoots.


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by ricko on Jan 9th, 2019 at 8:51pm

Mike wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 6:33pm:
"The lack of transparency is dissapointing to say the least"

ask away, there's nothing secretive going on...what would you like to know?


How do you feel about Duke Basketball?

Eagles getting a win by the "double doink"?

These are the real important questions ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 9th, 2019 at 11:02pm

ricko wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 8:51pm:

Mike wrote on Jan 9th, 2019 at 6:33pm:
"The lack of transparency is dissapointing to say the least"

ask away, there's nothing secretive going on...what would you like to know?


How do you feel about Duke Basketball?

Eagles getting a win by the "double doink"?

These are the real important questions ;)


If you care about my feelings and thoughts on Duke basketball, you can tune into my podcast Duke Basketball Junkies.  There's no female muscle content, but my buddy from Duke and I go no holds barred on Coach K and the program.

As far as the double-doink goes and recent Eagles success, its been surreal and highly enjoyable.

Nice to hear from you, Ricko...hope all is well with you and your family

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:13am
Finally some true words. Now we know the main business is webcam and VOD in the future and on the member site you will only get material that is not "VOD-worthy". Which means stuff you also could easily find on youtube or social media as Plop13 already commented above.
I can understand that they want to maximize their income (who would not do that?), but this also means if you don't like the concept of VOD (buying each video separately instead of something like a flatrate concept of a member site) and you want good quality content it's time to move on.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jan 10th, 2019 at 11:05am
Finally we have an answer of the webmaster, sadly there are two kind of customers and models. I don't like vod option because it's expensive and when i bought some of them i really don't find it amazing. Now is time to say goodbye and spend the money in other sites.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by duffman on Jan 10th, 2019 at 11:57am
I also don't like the VOD concept, but unfortunately this is the way to make money in this business. There are clips that cost more than a regular one month membership. But there will always be hardcore fans willing to pay for that stuff. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer. That's just the way it is.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jan 10th, 2019 at 5:58pm

Ricardo wrote on Jan 10th, 2019 at 11:05am:
Finally we have an answer of the webmaster, sadly there are two kind of customers and models. I don't like vod option because it's expensive and when i bought some of them i really don't find it amazing. Now is time to say goodbye and spend the money in other sites.


Often, models who we shoot for the first time even if they're great wouldn't produce much VOD worthy material.† It really just depends on how the shoot is set up, the time involved, who's there, where it is, etc etc. So, for example Sean went to Jr Nationals and set up 15-20 shoots mostly with competitors he had never worked with...and mostly 1 hour to 1.5 hour time slots.† Those are generally going to be getting acquainted shoots, with time for a few outfits in a neutral outdoor setting.† If the shoot produces good enough footage, we might be able to produce a meet so and so video using 5-10 minutes of the best stuff from the 20-40 minutes of video we roll on her....or we might not.† But either way, there's going to be clips for the Plus site from that shoot in addition to the VOD.† So maybe we got 4-5 VODs from those 15 shoots with newcomers, and that's fine.† If we meet great girls, we might fly them in for 1-2 days of shooting here in Las Vegas or reserve a half day or whole day to shoot with them at their next show or near their hometown depending where they are located.† Those shoots would be VOD heavy ideally and would involve considerable investment of time and money.† Those shoots simply wouldn't have happened back in the day.† We did maybe one fly-in every 3-4 months, but now we'll be able to do 10-15 fly ins a year...and the material we shoot will be different and shot specifically to produce these VODs.† There will also be clips from most of these shoots for Plus...so everybody wins.

Now for that same show, Sean was able to arrange to do 2 longer shoots with 2 models we had shot with before that were on webcam and was able to do more VOD-type work with them with male victims, hotel set ups, and invest time into doing that.  So, that was cool. 

So, its not really two different kinds of models...its stages of working with a model.† We might shoot an all-time great and she's uninterested or unwilling to do most of our ideas that would lead to VOD...she might not want to compare muscles with a man, tease him for being smaller than her, or play mercy with him to demonstrate how much stronger she is.  We want to be able to shoot with all the top models we can, just like we want to be able to serve all of our customers...so it works out. There will always be plenty of shoots that mostly or entirely wind up in the realm of Plus clips and not VOD. 

Our cam site allows us to get to know models, and it functions as a market test as well.† We wouldn't have met Ripped Reiley without the cam site, and seen what she can do, and how popular she was....so it was easy to reach out and invite her to fly-in and her shoots were VOD-purposed.† Its nice when we know somebody can and will deliver.  But most of the time, we are operating with less certainty and try to err on the side of making sure the models we work with are comfortable with what we are shooting.  That often means fun shoots that are really productive. 

I don't think there's 2 different kinds of customers...I know there are hundreds of different kinds of customers.† But I also don't think that I get to control what the customers want...customer demand is always the master of ceremonies.† The market is speaking, and I'm just willing to listen.

Sean and I have worked very hard over the years to do just that, listen to our customers...people vote with their wallets.† If you're only able to or willing to spend 10-15 dollars per month, we understand and we value that spend and your patronage.† But you can't complain that we want to serve the demand for people who are able and willing to spend hundred or even several thousand dollars a month for a differentiated product whether it be cams or VOD.†

On the new Plus site, you'll be able to see most of our clips and photo sets for absolutely free, no membership money.† And if you want to join to see the members material also, to enjoy a discount on our VOD products, to be able to have some privileges like ability to download and comment on the material, and VIP on HerBicepscam, then you'll be able to do that.†

Our new business model, and it has been a slow move to it over the years, is ideally going to make all the different customers happy...but its also designed to make the models and us, the producers, money.† That's the beauty of the whole thing...everybody can win.

The dire pronouncements of no more this, no more that, simply aren't true.† But I understand why you might think they are...we have been putting a lot of focus this year into developing our VOD products, but we have plenty of material for free and members on the new site for their to be plentiful daily updates and plenty of reasons to keep coming back and enjoying what we're producing...but of course, its your decision.

We are still learning as we go, experimenting, and trying to do our best to serve the demand that exists.  We are middle men, matching customer demand to model willingness/supply.  That's what I've always done.  When I started HerBiceps as an off-shoot of the NYMC shows, I didn't know the demand would be so lacking for live show experience and so strong for online content from the amateurish shoots we did.  Over time, demand has shifted as the world has changed.  Piracy is a big part of this; youtube is a big part of this; instagram is a big part of this...running a pure members section isn't what it used to be...flexing footage isn't as scarce as it used to be...its a much different world than it was 20 years ago.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Jan 10th, 2019 at 7:13pm

Quote:
The lack of transparency is disappointing to say the least, people asked nicely for so long and they just refuse to go into detail about anything regarding the membership site. Only for the PR man to come in with an insincere apology and no explanation, or Mike to spout off some condescending remark.

Whatís insincere about saying ďHey guys, we thought we could deliver this great new thing by ___ and it didnít happen, because we underestimated the scope of the taskĒ? Thatís our bad and we totally own it. Weíve said multiple times that we want customers to make the right purchase decisions for themselves and we get why people might not feel a monthly membership is worth renewing right now.

If anything, weíve probably been *too* transparent. We share details about what weíre up to from time-to-time, because fans ask, but ultimately, talking about site logistics is not the business weíre in. Those conversations are boring and donít add much entertainment value - the customers donít want it. If youíre ever passing through and want to grab a drink, though,†Iíll be happy to chat about anything. 😊


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Jan 11th, 2019 at 4:25pm
Thank you for finally replying in a frank manner and giving such detailed replies, as far as I'm aware this is the first time you've openly stated that the membership site is more of a side project now which is all people wanted confirming.

As for what I'd like to know, you've covered a lot in your replies but a few things would be: Why are updates so sparse these days and often filled with duplicates or poorly categorised? Why is it that so many broken links are posted and never fixed? Why does it take so long for newer shoots to filter through to being posted on the site? Why are videos such as the ones with Yeon which are already fully edited not being posted?

And maybe I was getting a little carried away with the insincerity jibe but you can only keep screwing up for so long without the problems. The delay of HBPlus is regrettable yet totally understandable but that isn't the main problem that's been irritating customers. People have had issues with the rate of updates for both photo and video for a long time and this still hasn't been really addressed in any of these repeated apologies. It's taken this long to even get a solid confirmation on the fact that the membership site isn't a focus, let alone actually address why the updates are so sporadic.

As I said though, many thanks for giving these honest responses and you'll see a lot less complaining from me in future as a result. It's just a shame it had to take this level of badgering to get to the answer.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Sean on Jan 12th, 2019 at 3:28am
"Why are videos such as the ones with Yeon which are already fully edited not being posted"

Please check out her VOD on herbicepscam.com/vod for what we edited from that shoot.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by yugnorac on Jan 12th, 2019 at 3:16pm

Sean wrote on Jan 12th, 2019 at 3:28am:
"Why are videos such as the ones with Yeon which are already fully edited not being posted"

Please check out her VOD on herbicepscam.com/vod for what we edited from that shoot.


That's not much help, Sean. All I'm getting from "herbicepscam.com/vod" is an error message that reads "Error on accessing the database".

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Sean on Jan 12th, 2019 at 4:57pm
Im sorry about that.


https://www.herbicepscam.com/vod/?term=yeon

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by zakaka44 on Jan 12th, 2019 at 6:20pm
Some models use nicknames, so it's hard to find out how many videos are available. There is no link to the profile of the model with and under which the videos are listed. The quality of the video image is too low because it is not possible to download. These are major shortcomings. I bought 3-4 vod to date but I was not satisfied at all. My money is wasted. If I give an average of 7-8 dollars for a clip, I have to download it to my computer.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Jan 12th, 2019 at 8:14pm

Sean wrote on Jan 12th, 2019 at 3:28am:
"Why are videos such as the ones with Yeon which are already fully edited not being posted"

Please check out her VOD on herbicepscam.com/vod for what we edited from that shoot.

I meant the clips (including metal planks) that Mike posted links to in this thread many pages back. As it stands I'm pretty sure you can only access them from this thread. Are there any other clips like this which exist but just aren't accessable from the site?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Jan 12th, 2019 at 10:33pm

Plop13 wrote on Jan 12th, 2019 at 8:14pm:
I meant the clips (including metal planks) that Mike posted links to in this thread many pages back. As it stands I'm pretty sure you can only access them from this thread. Are there any other clips like this which exist but just aren't accessable from the site?

Are you talking about the Feats of strength clips posted to the members section?  Are those the ones you are unable to see?  Or something else?



Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Jan 13th, 2019 at 7:54am
Why there is no "search by name (not alias)" option in VOD???

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kinky Desires on Jan 13th, 2019 at 10:35pm

Tre wrote on Jan 12th, 2019 at 10:33pm:

Plop13 wrote on Jan 12th, 2019 at 8:14pm:
I meant the clips (including metal planks) that Mike posted links to in this thread many pages back. As it stands I'm pretty sure you can only access them from this thread. Are there any other clips like this which exist but just aren't accessable from the site?

Are you talking about the Feats of strength clips posted to the members section?† Are those the ones you are unable to see?† Or something else?

I think he's referring to the links Mike posted in this post on the 21st October https://messages.herbiceps.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1480623786/477#477 but if that is the case he is mistaken, because those clips where all added to the members area a few days after they were posted here (on the 24th to be precise).

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jan 20th, 2019 at 6:53pm
In the last messages it's clear that the care and attention is put in the VOD and not in the classic membership section. What we have now more excuses and promises or a fantastic new site and the same bad service of 2018, one update this month, broken links, duplicates and when you report it nobody answers. In past years when we report a broken link in a few days the webmaster correct them but now nothing is done. When you pay for a monthly membership you expect regular updates not random, we expect a good customer service not a excuse service even if we pay a "small" amount of money we deserve a good service. >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Jan 21st, 2019 at 12:26am
If the Yeon videos are elsewhere on the site then I apologise and must just have overlooked them. The other problems still stand though, but since you've admitted it's just a side-project I suppose it's to be expected, and props for removing the longer membership subscriptions.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Jan 30th, 2019 at 3:54am
Ok so since the date of HB+ launch keeps getting pushed back can u or will u at least update the main site? Show your customers u still care. And I'm starting to wonder if HB+ is straight up False Advertising as a way to keep PAYING customers to stick around. If it's not gunna happen then please start updating this site

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Feb 7th, 2019 at 6:03am
I'm hoping we get an update this year or should we just make enough noise for you guys to care to put a 10 video update with mostly interviews.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Feb 10th, 2019 at 3:11pm
20 days without an update and it looks like you guys even stopped complaining because it does nothing. I'm not one of those people who always buys the subscription but i've been fan for years now, and i will never give you guys a single dime again, this is ridiculous.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Feb 10th, 2019 at 3:21pm
"20 days without an update....???"   Try 45 plus days without a photo gallery update. As a long time subscriber (since 2003), my patience is beginning to wear thin.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Feb 10th, 2019 at 3:32pm
It is disheartening that they don't seem to upload at all until people start complaining.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Feb 10th, 2019 at 3:54pm

6789shav wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 3:21pm:
"20 days without an update....???"† †Try 45 plus days without a photo gallery update. As a long time subscriber (since 2003), my patience is beginning to wear thin.


Oh yeah, i'm not really intrested in photos but thats even more ridiculous.


Plop13 wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 3:32pm:
It is disheartening that they don't seem to upload at all until people start complaining.


Even then it's an awful update with mostly interviews that should be on a free channel to introduce people to the models. Like a teaser in a sense.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Feb 10th, 2019 at 11:02pm
The webmaster only cares about the "cheap vod section" the loyal customers pay a cheap fee for a dead site.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Frauc11 on Feb 11th, 2019 at 2:30pm
20 days without a video's update and almost 2month since the last photo's update

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Feb 12th, 2019 at 1:38pm
23 days and counting.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Feb 12th, 2019 at 8:45pm
What a half ass photo update wow

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Feb 12th, 2019 at 9:04pm
Would be nice to have some videos as well, maybe? Or is it only one or the other now?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Feb 14th, 2019 at 10:05am
I'm stunned how bad this update is.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Feb 15th, 2019 at 12:34am
The site is going backwards, last year they post few updates but of high quality, now the same poor amount of updates but low quality. What it's next: no updates at all only vod.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Feb 15th, 2019 at 6:09am
Yeah i made a mistake buying, i knew this was going to be like this. Oh well i'll just never waste a single dollar here again.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Feb 18th, 2019 at 9:23pm
So that was it for the updates then?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Feb 19th, 2019 at 1:37am
that was one of the worst video updates in a long time.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Feb 19th, 2019 at 2:13pm
I'll start complaining now so maybe we get something next month.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Feb 19th, 2019 at 10:00pm

Levy wrote on Feb 19th, 2019 at 2:13pm:
I'll start complaining now so maybe we get something next month.

May as well, they usually only update once the monthly complaining starts. Maybe if we complain more we'll get more updates.  :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Feb 19th, 2019 at 11:21pm
A new year with a few updates but now even the quality of the videos decrease every time. The only way to get the best models is with vod but for me are expensive. It's better to cancel the membership and search other sites.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Stonebreaker on Feb 20th, 2019 at 4:14am
They're holding off on the good stuff for the launch, but since it keeps getting pushed back,† I'm sure they are just rationing the lesser stuff of what they have left.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Feb 20th, 2019 at 12:01pm

Levy wrote on Feb 19th, 2019 at 2:13pm:
I'll start complaining now so maybe we get something next month.

Wrong reaction. You should not start complaining, but STOP paying. Best to show them that this behavior is not OK is to stop giving them money. I also don't buy any VODs

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Feb 20th, 2019 at 2:27pm

Femalebicepsfan wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 12:01pm:

Levy wrote on Feb 19th, 2019 at 2:13pm:
I'll start complaining now so maybe we get something next month.

Wrong reaction. You should not start complaining, but STOP paying. Best to show them that this behavior is not OK is to stop giving them money. I also don't buy any VODs

At this point I think that's what they want tbh, to get to userbase down to a level where they can justify closing the original site and continue with just VOD. And as for not paying for VOD I suspect that the webcams are the real moneyspinner, and nothing is gonna put the regular users off using those.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Feb 20th, 2019 at 5:14pm
Paying just for a video is something i will never do, i'll just move on with my life and free stuff will be enough. I can't believe people pay for VODs.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by zakaka44 on Feb 20th, 2019 at 5:43pm

Levy wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 5:14pm:
Paying just for a video is something i will never do, i'll just move on with my life and free stuff will be enough. I can't believe people pay for VODs.

I agree. VOD purchase is a complete stupidity. You can watch better than most VOD videos on social media. for free

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Feb 20th, 2019 at 11:41pm
I think that the regular website is dead, I purchase as a test some VOD but they are expensive.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 2:29pm

Ricardo wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 11:41pm:
I think that the regular website is dead, I purchase as a test some VOD but they are expensive.

they are not expensive...they are EXTREMELY expensive!!!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:02pm

Kurtis Trent wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 2:29pm:

Ricardo wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 11:41pm:
I think that the regular website is dead, I purchase as a test some VOD but they are expensive.

they are not expensive...they are EXTREMELY expensive!!!

But, but, it works out cheaper per minute than any other site! Never mind the fact that it's infinitely more expensive than the deal the old site already had in place, and most of those minutes you pay for are 10% unique content and 90% repetitive flexing. The armwrestling video with Syleena Adams straight up repeats flexing footage to pad out the run time.  :P

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:06pm

Plop13 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 6:02pm:

Kurtis Trent wrote on Feb 23rd, 2019 at 2:29pm:

Ricardo wrote on Feb 20th, 2019 at 11:41pm:
I think that the regular website is dead, I purchase as a test some VOD but they are expensive.

they are not expensive...they are EXTREMELY expensive!!!

But, but, it works out cheaper per minute than any other site! Never mind the fact that it's infinitely more expensive than the deal the old site already had in place, and most of those minutes you pay for are 10% unique content and 90% repetitive flexing. The armwrestling video with Syleena Adams straight up repeats flexing footage to pad out the run time. So instead of paying $13 for 10 armwrestling vids per month plus loads of other content, we're paying $5 per video for maybe 2 or 3 matches in VOD's that are explicitly marketed as being armwrestling.† :P


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Feb 24th, 2019 at 12:38am
it should just say NOTHING when you click the "what's new" button.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Feb 24th, 2019 at 3:08pm
Maybe the webmaster can replace the What's new button with a VOD button offering expensive videos with only repetitive and boring flexes. >:( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Feb 25th, 2019 at 12:46am
Iíll make it a point to do some big updates this week...I have been waiting on the new site to launch some new models, but  it keeps getting delayed

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Feb 26th, 2019 at 8:48pm
maybe some newer shoots/models besides 2016-2017 and interviews. also some of the links frm last update are still broken...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Feb 27th, 2019 at 5:45pm

Mike wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 12:46am:
but† it keeps getting delayed

surprise, surprise.
But hey, just one or two more...
... decades and bam the new site is online.
Of course with design and functionality of today. ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Feb 27th, 2019 at 6:11pm

Mike wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 12:46am:
Iíll make it a point to do some big updates this week...(...)


Halfway done with the weekdays, Mike, and I've only seen you update once in a weekend.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Feb 27th, 2019 at 11:14pm
As usual we expect a decent update but not is like the tale of Peter and the wolf

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Feb 28th, 2019 at 11:43am
I love all these phantom updates and promises.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Feb 28th, 2019 at 4:27pm
Another fake update :'( :'(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Feb 28th, 2019 at 6:22pm

Mike wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 12:46am:
Iíll make it a point to do some big updates this week...(...)


This was the sole reason i resubscribed. Now I don't see that happening again.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Mar 1st, 2019 at 12:30am
They announced a great update and only put a few galleries. I don't understand how they appreciate the customers it's a shame >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Mar 1st, 2019 at 12:41am

Ricardo wrote on Mar 1st, 2019 at 12:30am:
They announced a great update and only put a few galleries. I don't understand how they appreciate the customers it's a shame >:(

Don't be too hasty, I think they sometimes do an update in batches. And even if they don't update again today I'd be surprised if this is all we get for the week.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Mar 1st, 2019 at 10:36am

Quote:
Don't be too hasty


Yeah just wait for couple years, i'm sure the update is coming.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Mar 1st, 2019 at 10:47pm

Levy wrote on Mar 1st, 2019 at 10:36am:

Quote:
Don't be too hasty


Yeah just wait for couple years, i'm sure the update is coming.

Trust me, I'm as annoyed as anyone but I'm just saying there are still a few days of the week left. If they don't give us this big update by Sunday then they can't even get apology updates up on time and they really are taking the piss.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 12:02am
Only one day left for the big update, the people who leads this site may be honest and offer only the "incredible" vod section of "amazing and cheap videos" (other sites offer vod as low as 2.5 dollars) and declare Herbiceps as an archive site like Femflex.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 8:12am

Plop13 wrote on Mar 1st, 2019 at 10:47pm:

Levy wrote on Mar 1st, 2019 at 10:36am:

Quote:
Don't be too hasty


Yeah just wait for couple years, i'm sure the update is coming.

Trust me, I'm as annoyed as anyone but I'm just saying there are still a few days of the week left. If they don't give us this big update by Sunday then they can't even get apology updates up on time and they really are taking the piss.


It's sunday, do we have your permission to complain now?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 9:43am
no, wait till tomorrow, then it will be legit  ;D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Drummer on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 10:22am
This is just moneymaking. Last year 4-5 GOOD (not just BIG) updates with photos and videos per month. the last 3 months only 1-2 updates per month with photos or videos ...

one day left ... then its time to quit this ...  :-/

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 1:55pm

Levy wrote on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 8:12am:

Plop13 wrote on Mar 1st, 2019 at 10:47pm:

Levy wrote on Mar 1st, 2019 at 10:36am:

Quote:
Don't be too hasty


Yeah just wait for couple years, i'm sure the update is coming.

Trust me, I'm as annoyed as anyone but I'm just saying there are still a few days of the week left. If they don't give us this big update by Sunday then they can't even get apology updates up on time and they really are taking the piss.


It's sunday, do we have your permission to complain now?

By all means, knock yourself out.† ;) I'd say give it til Monday in case they meant that by "this week", but honestly the week is technically now over and I think they care so little they've just forgotten about it.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 5:16pm
(Post #598) Drummer: don't let the door hit you in the rear end on your way out.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 9:22pm

Mike wrote on Feb 25th, 2019 at 12:46am:
Iíll make it a point to do some big updates this week...I have been waiting on the new site to launch some new models, but† it keeps getting delayed


Model 1: 1 video (measurements)
L&C: 3 videos
Model 2: 1 video (planks)
Model 3: 1 video (measurements)
Grip: 1 video (from 2015)
Model 4: 2 videos

Don't make explicit promises unless you can keep them, Mike.

EDIT (Monday morning): Inflated update list containing more measurements and interview videos.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 10:23pm
I like to think this is just a little taste of the big announced update, otherwise it would be just offensive.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Mar 3rd, 2019 at 11:25pm

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Mar 4th, 2019 at 1:59am
Big update?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Mar 4th, 2019 at 9:34am
Not the biggest but at least something more has come :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Mar 4th, 2019 at 4:13pm
Sorry guys, just cleaning out the rest of the old stuff before I get the new stuff up. Iíve got an enormous amount edited and ready for upload this week.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Mar 4th, 2019 at 6:20pm

Mike wrote on Mar 4th, 2019 at 4:13pm:
Sorry guys, just cleaning out the rest of the old stuff before I get the new stuff up. Iíve got an enormous amount edited and ready for upload this week.

I'll believe it when i see it.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Mar 5th, 2019 at 7:41pm

Levy wrote on Mar 4th, 2019 at 6:20pm:

Mike wrote on Mar 4th, 2019 at 4:13pm:
Sorry guys, just cleaning out the rest of the old stuff before I get the new stuff up. Iíve got an enormous amount edited and ready for upload this week.

I'll believe it when i see it.


that's fair

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by billy on Mar 6th, 2019 at 1:58pm
Can you PLEASE just post some of the abs videos from Tracy Williams shoot? You guys teased this a year or 2 ago and they look amazing and we've seen no vids but just seen the photos. Please post soon!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by bombomper on Mar 6th, 2019 at 4:15pm

billy wrote on Mar 6th, 2019 at 1:58pm:
Can you PLEASE just post some of the abs videos from Tracy Williams shoot? You guys teased this a year or 2 ago and they look amazing and we've seen no vids but just seen the photos. Please post soon!

seconded

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Mar 20th, 2019 at 2:30am
well it was a solid week run of consistent updates. see yall when hb+ comes out

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Mar 25th, 2019 at 1:20am
The first days of march were full of hope and promises, greaaaat and biiiiig updates, I really consider to rejoin Herbiceps but when the new updates were full of bugs and mostly interviews I was dissapointed. Now all is normal again no updates and for this reason more loyal members thinking if it's worth to get a subscription again.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Mar 25th, 2019 at 2:00am
I agree with u Ricardo, I was close to rejoining and getting a membership again but nope it's not worth it and I'm tired of the updates only having one or two good videos. On a side note, the herbiceps team isnt doing a good job with the VODs on hbc. Not many updates and nothing that makes me wanna spend my money

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by mayes on Mar 25th, 2019 at 2:32am
i agree the herbiceps updates were big but mostly interviews. not we go for 3 weeks without one again. i also agree that they havent been pumping out VODs like they were when it first launched, but to say that theres nothing worth buying is a little much in my opinions. lauren quinn, courtney jacobs, nathalia coelho, hailey delf...cmon now.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Mar 25th, 2019 at 2:52am
Mayes your right theres forsure some good vods. Guess I'm just frustrated cause they dont put out that many anymore and I do feel like the older vods r better

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Sean on Mar 25th, 2019 at 3:33am

Goodtimes wrote on Mar 25th, 2019 at 2:52am:
Mayes your right theres forsure some good vods. Guess I'm just frustrated cause they dont put out that many anymore and I do feel like the older vods r better


GoodTimes can DM and describe to me about which individual VODs are not up to your standards and which are not. We are always looking to improve and evolve our products. Thanks.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Mar 31st, 2019 at 11:31pm
I think that it's time to declare Herbiceps dead and long and expensive live to the vod

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by yugnorac on Apr 1st, 2019 at 4:12pm

Ricardo wrote on Mar 31st, 2019 at 11:31pm:
I think that it's time to declare Herbiceps dead


I have been a loyal customer of this site for nearly 20 years, and have been holding out hope for a return to the good old days of regular updates. Obviously, that's just a pipe dream. There are too many good, regularly-updated sites out there for me to continue wasting money here awaiting updates that never come.  Unfortunately, you've left me no choice but to add myself to your ever-growing list of long-time member cancellations. Good luck, gentlemen.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Apr 1st, 2019 at 10:56pm
Well, a huge update would have been the coolest April fool lol
Yo still in time guys! :) ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Apr 4th, 2019 at 9:47am
Not to be an axxhole guys but it's almost a month without update  ::)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Drummer on Apr 4th, 2019 at 3:45pm
A month without update ... i want my money back.  :-X

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Apr 8th, 2019 at 2:25am
I really don't understand the owners of this site they're worried to what we expect for a new site, how we can trust to get an improved site if they don't take care of the current. Weeks ago they promised a big update but they only post a few videos and many bugs.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by macdis on Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:32pm
I'm cancelling my membership.† The complete lack of regard for customers of the website is terrible customer service.†The answers provide by your staff are I see no reason to continue as a member.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by zakaka44 on Apr 9th, 2019 at 7:48pm

macdis wrote on Apr 9th, 2019 at 4:32pm:
I'm cancelling my membership.† The complete lack of regard for customers of the website is terrible customer service.†The answers provide by your staff are I see no reason to continue as a member.



it was the mistake of continuing your membership so far. I congratulate you.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Apr 9th, 2019 at 9:13pm
Last video update 7th March, last picture update 4th March, the least HB guys should do is giving a free month membership, just saying  ::)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Apr 10th, 2019 at 3:01am
"Sneak Peak"? Seriously? I haven't watched the video as I don't have a membership currently so maybe it's incredibly substantial but it just seems to perfectly sum up the situation.

There's dissatisfaction with the state of the membership site so you upload what I assume is a VOD advertisement? Tone deaf?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Apr 10th, 2019 at 8:04am
Its a 4 minute long video of 2 hot muscle babes in the gym lifting...candid, real...win win for everybody. There's a 20+ minute longer video, but here members get to enjoy a pretty substatial part of the video without having to buy the VOD.

When we do an extra long video, I was thinking this would be a great way to allow members to access footage and still leave more for customers that want to buy the whole video. 

For example, we just posted a 20 minute awesome edit of Lauren Quinn talking about her growth and transformation working with HerBiceps and on her physique from 2007 to 2019 with footage of each of her shoots with us over the years.  The first 3-5 minutes are awesome and include footage from 7-8 shoots and for many, that's all they might need or want to see.  So I was thinking it would be a great "sneak preview", which we are using as getting to see part of the video without buying it, for members.  If you watched that and loved it and wanted to see the whole thing, you might buy it.  If you don't, that's ok too.


Plop13 wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 3:01am:
"Sneak Peak"? Seriously? I haven't watched the video as I don't have a membership currently so maybe it's incredibly substantial but it just seems to perfectly sum up the situation.

There's dissatisfaction with the state of the membership site so you upload what I assume is a VOD advertisement? Tone deaf?


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Femalebicepsfan on Apr 10th, 2019 at 10:47am
What Sneap Peak are you talking about?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Apr 10th, 2019 at 6:09pm

Femalebicepsfan wrote on Apr 10th, 2019 at 10:47am:
What Sneap Peak are you talking about?


https://www.herbiceps.com/menu/videoclippics/rachellecarterclips.shtml

its the 5th one down, part of yesterday's update

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Apr 19th, 2019 at 12:45am
It will be nice to post another update

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 5:45pm
Any chance of an update soon? I foolishly purchased another membership after the spate of goodwill but am regretting the decision more and more with each passing day. Is one update per month the quota now then?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 11:19pm
I made the same mistake getting a membership, it's time to be honest  with your customers about the future of the site.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Levy on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:16am
At this point it's the customers fault for giving them money, i stopped paying but every now and again i check to see what's going on and it's always nothing, stop wasting money here it's just a dead site only pay them if the content you want to see is already updated, don't hope for anything, at this point it's obvious that they're making bank from VOD and this is just a side project and maybe not even.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Apr 24th, 2019 at 6:18pm

Levy wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:16am:
At this point it's the customers fault for giving them money, i stopped paying but every now and again i check to see what's going on and it's always nothing, stop wasting money here it's just a dead site only pay them if the content you want to see is already updated, don't hope for anything, at this point it's obvious that they're making bank from VOD and this is just a side project and maybe not even.

I also assume that's why HB+ is taking so long. They started focusing more on VOD around the same time they started developing HB+, it must be hard to plough resources into that venture when the VOD site is probably making them more capital than an upgraded membership site ever would've done.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Apr 30th, 2019 at 11:19pm
0 updates but there is a topic for the ideal VOD  >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by autechre on May 1st, 2019 at 7:38am

Ricardo wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 11:19pm:
0 updates but there is a topic for the ideal VOD† >:( >:( >:(


Unfortunately that seems to be whats bringing in the $$$. It'd be great if some of those videos were on the "regular" site.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on May 1st, 2019 at 7:36pm
sorry, guys...just got back from a trip...gonna do a big update in next 24 hours

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kinky Desires on May 1st, 2019 at 9:30pm
Here's a suggestion. Instead of saying "sorry I've been busy, I'm gonna do a big update to make up for all the missed updates" how about saying something like "sorry I've been busy, I'm gonna extend everyone's membership renewal dates by a month so you haven't wasted your money on missed updates!"?

I don't know how easy this would be for you to implement but I would say this is definitely a much fairer way of doing it because all those members who have been patiently waiting for an update for the past month might suddenly find themselves unable to access your 'big update' when it comes because their membership may have expired while they were waiting for it!!!

I personally have absolutely no idea how long is left on my own membership!† :-[† I took out a long term non-recurring membership quite a long time ago! I don't even remember how long I paid for! I've just checked it and it's still working for the time being, but I really have no idea when it's due to run out.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by macdis on May 1st, 2019 at 10:43pm

Mike wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:36pm:
sorry, guys...just got back from a trip...gonna do a big update in next 24 hours


And I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you.



Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:46pm
24 hours or days?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on May 3rd, 2019 at 7:21pm

Ricardo wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:46pm:
24 hours or days?


You don't see the update? It went up yesterday afternoon

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on May 3rd, 2019 at 7:39pm

Mike wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 7:21pm:

Ricardo wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:46pm:
24 hours or days?


You don't see the update? It went up yesterday afternoon


Man it took 25 hours  8-) 8-) :P ;D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on May 3rd, 2019 at 11:51pm
Finally a great update, new and know models, zero bugs and only a few interviews. :D :D

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on May 4th, 2019 at 12:19am

Kinky Desires wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 9:30pm:
I personally have absolutely no idea how long is left on my own membership!† :-[† I took out a long term non-recurring membership quite a long time ago! I don't even remember how long I paid for! I've just checked it and it's still working for the time being, but I really have no idea when it's due to run out.


Email webmaster@herbiceps.com and ask howlong you have left on your membership

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kinky Desires on May 4th, 2019 at 4:29pm

Mike wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 12:19am:

Kinky Desires wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 9:30pm:
I personally have absolutely no idea how long is left on my own membership!† :-[† I took out a long term non-recurring membership quite a long time ago! I don't even remember how long I paid for! I've just checked it and it's still working for the time being, but I really have no idea when it's due to run out.


Email webmaster@herbiceps.com and ask howlong you have left on your membership

It's ok, I ran a search on my e-mail and found the date that way. I have exactly 7 weeks left!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Dante on May 12th, 2019 at 4:10am
Subscription ran out. Paid for a year, got a dearth of new updates. I guess I paid for existing content, which is all right, but I thought, you know, there'd be regular postings of new stuff.

I guess the Internet bit about I am disappoint fits.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on May 13th, 2019 at 12:06pm

Dante wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 4:10am:
Subscription ran out. Paid for a year, got a dearth of new updates. I guess I paid for existing content, which is all right, but I thought, you know, there'd be regular postings of new stuff.

I guess the Internet bit about I am disappoint fits.

They don't even bother to update the membership site until a monthly threshold of complaints has been reached. It's been well over a year since they've released an update without being prompted by the paying customers.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Stonebreaker on May 13th, 2019 at 2:38pm
Customer service 101 from working in the industry.

-Manage people's expectations.† If something is going to take longer than it should, overshoot the estimate so that when you inevitably get to it way earlier, you have happy customers.† I'm not just talking about the new site. YOu have the right strategy when you say there isn't a firm release date, but updating us on your own would be appreciated† I've been through that process and totally get all the unforeseen hiccups and bs you have to deal with.† There is no doubt you are busting ass.

I used to work in insurance.† When a customer wanted a quote on a Friday, I'd tell them I'd have it to them Monday afternoon knowing full well I'd be able to get it to them by Friday afternoon and you'd be amazed how much they appreciate it when I'd get it to them well earlier.† They think you're working extra hard just for them.† It's what directly affects our wallet that needs to be addressed or you get bad publicity.

-Communication in general.† Tre will at least respond which cushions the frustration a good deal, but it's something.† All customers want is timely responses for better or worse.† Even if it will disappoint them. Timeliness is key.† It should not take more than 24 hours no matter what for a legit complaint.† Especially for a site like this that rakes it in.  You're always going to have your ass hats with completely unreasonable demands, but most people will understand and be patient.

It's especially effective if you initiate the communication.† Do previews.† Plug upcoming models or who you plan to shoot with.† Give updates on changes.† Teasers should be a given.† Hell, you don't even need to post photos even a paragraph gets it done.† Don't just do it once, do it weekly.† I go to HDPhysiques, they tell me there is a great new model they shoot with and will post the content on Friday and then they follow through.† Krivsstudio does a shoot recap and a headline that says something like they are going to the Arnold Classic and will make the updates up to us when they return.† These are much lesser sites that have a tiny fraction of what you have for backlogs of content. This juggernaut has dozens of new models to preview.† Listen to your customers.†

Those are tweaks you can make that take little time and would greatly reduce our constant bitching and your stress level.




Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on May 13th, 2019 at 3:04pm
And it always feels as if they're finally serious about turning things around after they've apologised and dealt out concessions, only to immediately make the same mistakes again and again. Would it kill anybody to do two updates per month to stem the constant flow of complaints? People have been unhappy with the service provided by the membership site for a long time and the response has basically always been some variation on directing the customers towards purchasing VOD rather than addressing the problem.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on May 13th, 2019 at 5:07pm
Guys, you do realize that`s the only website with working
message board...Tomorrow they will close it, and the end.
And yes, they will get our money with their ultra expensive VOD, because the stuff is amazing!!
And the customers cannot do anything....absolutely anything!

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on May 13th, 2019 at 10:22pm

Kurtis Trent wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 5:07pm:
Guys, you do realize that`s the only website with working
message board...Tomorrow they will close it, and the end.
And yes, they will get our money with their ultra expensive VOD, because the stuff is amazing!!
And the customers cannot do anything....absolutely anything!

LOL! We totally love you guys. And you - as customers - DO hold the cards. We make the best possible efforts to serve the interests of our customers in a way that makes sense for the business.†

We don't want to give customers the same type of shoot quality we did 15 years ago or even 5 years ago and, more importantly, you (collectively) do not *want* a 2003 HB shoot with a 2019 model.†

We don't have time to visit every day, but I hope we will keep the forum alive, because the feedback is often beneficial and for me (personally), there is a lot of good history here.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on May 14th, 2019 at 9:56am

Stonebreaker wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 2:38pm:
Customer service 101 from working in the industry.

-Manage people's expectations.† If something is going to take longer than it should, overshoot the estimate so that when you inevitably get to it way earlier, you have happy customers.† I'm not just talking about the new site. YOu have the right strategy when you say there isn't a firm release date, but updating us on your own would be appreciated† I've been through that process and totally get all the unforeseen hiccups and bs you have to deal with.† There is no doubt you are busting ass.

I used to work in insurance.† When a customer wanted a quote on a Friday, I'd tell them I'd have it to them Monday afternoon knowing full well I'd be able to get it to them by Friday afternoon and you'd be amazed how much they appreciate it when I'd get it to them well earlier.† They think you're working extra hard just for them.† It's what directly affects our wallet that needs to be addressed or you get bad publicity.

-Communication in general.† Tre will at least respond which cushions the frustration a good deal, but it's something.† All customers want is timely responses for better or worse.† Even if it will disappoint them. Timeliness is key.† It should not take more than 24 hours no matter what for a legit complaint.† Especially for a site like this that rakes it in.† You're always going to have your ass hats with completely unreasonable demands, but most people will understand and be patient.

It's especially effective if you initiate the communication.† Do previews.† Plug upcoming models or who you plan to shoot with.† Give updates on changes.† Teasers should be a given.† Hell, you don't even need to post photos even a paragraph gets it done.† Don't just do it once, do it weekly.† I go to HDPhysiques, they tell me there is a great new model they shoot with and will post the content on Friday and then they follow through.† Krivsstudio does a shoot recap and a headline that says something like they are going to the Arnold Classic and will make the updates up to us when they return.† These are much lesser sites that have a tiny fraction of what you have for backlogs of content. This juggernaut has dozens of new models to preview.† Listen to your customers.†

Those are tweaks you can make that take little time and would greatly reduce our constant bitching and your stress level.

Hi, and thanks so much for sharing this thoughtful and specific feedback today.†It sounds like you've got some pertinent experience, for sure. Please understand that Mike and I (along with Mike D and Sean and Jay, etc) are a team.† Though it may be preferred to get a response from one or the other, the messages we post come from the team, even if we say one thing today and then something different next week - information changes. ;)† Mike and I recently did an interactive broadcast together that was very well-received and we enjoyed it, so that's something we may look to do from time-to-time.†

We want the new site opened in the worst kind of way, but we cannot offer any real, reliable launch estimates until we have the nut in hand. We HATE making excuses and for my money, explanations and excuses are essentially the same thing. No matter how sincere, I hate the sound of them, so I don't want to over-talk about the new project when I can't honestly give you a reasonable expectation on when you will be able to buy.

I don't know if you follow us on Instagram (@herbiceps), but we do occasionally tease some of our new/upcoming shoots there. The plan is to use some of those elements you described once we have the new site ready, so thank you for that positive reinforcement.

Your counsel is quite sound: underpromise, then overdeliver.† We haven't reached that standard on our future member site, but suggestions from some viewers that it's somehow a "back burner item" that we "don't care about" are not close to being accurate.† It's because of that dedication to the would-be customers of the member site platform that we've put so much time into trying to make it happen. The development team is working 6+ days/week and some of the preliminary testing has begun. I think the production team has some 200+ shoots lined up for this year, so we anticipate that there will lots of good, new material for the members. If - as some have alleged - we "only care about new VODs for the VOD customers", that number would be much smaller and the amount of man-hours being allocated for member site development and content would also be significantly less.

We fully recognize and appreciate the frustration of longtime members who aren't happy with us, and we also fully understand and respect customers making the purchase decisions that are right for them. Everyone's patience is greatly appreciated and we hope everyone in the HB universe will give us the opportunity to earn your future business when the product offerings are right for you.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by macdis on May 14th, 2019 at 8:21pm

Stonebreaker wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 2:38pm:
Customer service 101 from working in the industry.

-Manage people's expectations.† If something is going to take longer than it should, overshoot the estimate so that when you inevitably get to it way earlier, you have happy customers.† I'm not just talking about the new site. YOu have the right strategy when you say there isn't a firm release date, but updating us on your own would be appreciated† I've been through that process and totally get all the unforeseen hiccups and bs you have to deal with.† There is no doubt you are busting ass.

I used to work in insurance.† When a customer wanted a quote on a Friday, I'd tell them I'd have it to them Monday afternoon knowing full well I'd be able to get it to them by Friday afternoon and you'd be amazed how much they appreciate it when I'd get it to them well earlier.† They think you're working extra hard just for them.† It's what directly affects our wallet that needs to be addressed or you get bad publicity.

-Communication in general.† Tre will at least respond which cushions the frustration a good deal, but it's something.† All customers want is timely responses for better or worse.† Even if it will disappoint them. Timeliness is key.† It should not take more than 24 hours no matter what for a legit complaint.† Especially for a site like this that rakes it in.† You're always going to have your ass hats with completely unreasonable demands, but most people will understand and be patient.


I agree 100%. I've been in an industry† for 25 years that thrives on new products as well as sales quotations. My motto has always been "Don't talk about a new model until it is 90 days out". In this way, you manage expectations and don't look poorly as when a product is a year out and then delayed. HB has really failed completely in managing expectations. You have over-promised to the highest degree and under-performed to the same level. The company I now work for ignorned my advice and announced a product last September. It will be a year late and we look like mud.

Do as I do now and STOP TALKING ABOUT IT. Bury the new site till you roll it out. This is Marketing 101.† Your failure is now over 2 years old and makes HB look like amateur hour.

I cancelled my membership because I have no faith in anything you tell us. Retain your current members by updating the current site on a weekly basis. Then delight them with an overnight roll out of the new site.

You don't need an MBA to figure this out !

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on May 15th, 2019 at 8:54pm
Obviously, the HerBicepsPlus site has been a botch job.  I fully intended to underpromise and overdeliver early and midway through the process.  We are too far down the road to turn back, but recognize that each time we make a prediction, we've been off and let down by the team.

So, the ship has sailed on underpromising and overdelivered.  At this point, I'd prefer not to keep guessing wrong on when we will launch and just let you know when the site is ready to launch. 

At that point, it'll be a relief and hopefully you guys will like the new business model or at least understand it.  I'll go more in depth on all the changes and how the new site works once we get it launched.  We do have resources on the project, but they're overseas so we aren't "in the room".

As far as updates go, I'll take the bad on that...I had put a lot of time into putting stuff up on the new site, but that's not to much avail at the moment.  This was a mistake.  We have plenty to post here, but its been quite a project reimagining how we shoot and operate in all these different ways. 

The good news is that HerBiceps isn't going anywhere, and we will push through and get this site done.  There's no chance we close up shop or go out of business.  You probably know this, but our webcam business is still growing and improving year over year, for various reasons...one major one was the successful launch of the new HBCam platform and another major one was the advent of HerBiceps VOD.  Both of those successes allow us to spend as much time and money on HerBicepsPlus as we need to, and eventually get it right.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by macdis on May 18th, 2019 at 9:13pm

Mike wrote on May 15th, 2019 at 8:54pm:
As far as updates go, I'll take the bad on that...I had put a lot of time into putting stuff up on the new site, but that's not to much avail at the moment.† This was a mistake.† We have plenty to post here, but its been quite a project reimagining how we shoot and operate in all these different ways.†


Earn your former members back.

Put up new videos and images stat. you've done a bad job at that. No photo updates since early April.† Two small video updates since March.† †I quit because it's ridiculous.† Put a pin in HerBicepsPlus for the time being.†

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on May 18th, 2019 at 10:10pm
Mike how about some armwrestling clips? It be really nice to see some of those again it's been a while. I'm still waiting on syleena Adam's vs Chelsea keyasko

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on May 19th, 2019 at 12:50pm

Goodtimes wrote on May 18th, 2019 at 10:10pm:
Mike how about some armwrestling clips? It be really nice to see some of those again it's been a while. I'm still waiting on syleena Adam's vs Chelsea keyasko

There's no way they're ever releasing a good armwrestling match on the membership site again. Why would they ever waste it on that when they can release each 1 minute matchup on it's own "domination" VOD and charge 60+ credits a pop. They've made it clear that the webcams are very lucrative so it's very disappointing they don't use that to subsidise more substantial releases on the membership site.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Drummer on May 19th, 2019 at 3:55pm
Why should I pay for a site every month with only one Update? Or waste my money to a VOD Video with content whitch could be good or not?
There are sites with updates once a week and I feel not bad If the Video I downloaded is nothing for me, because I payed for the whole contet and not only for a video.
Give me ONE reason why I should further pay for this membership ...

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by macdis on May 19th, 2019 at 9:39pm

Drummer wrote on May 19th, 2019 at 3:55pm:
Why should I pay for a site every month with only one Update? Or waste my money to a VOD Video with content whitch could be good or not?
There are sites with updates once a week and I feel not bad If the Video I downloaded is nothing for me, because I payed for the whole contet and not only for a video.
Give me ONE reason why I should further pay for this membership ...


Just quit. Period. The webmasters clearly donít care about your business anymore. If you see that updates happen more often, then sign up again.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on May 20th, 2019 at 3:17pm
Decent update but I think I'm gonna hang fire this time until there's at least a substantial backlog.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by macdis on May 20th, 2019 at 8:44pm

Plop13 wrote on May 20th, 2019 at 3:17pm:
Decent update but I think I'm gonna hang fire this time until there's at least a substantial backlog.


Me too.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by hb_fan on May 20th, 2019 at 9:10pm
Will there be a photo update anytime soon? While the sporadic video updates at least have some substance to them, there have been only 5 photo updates this year, with none in January and 3 in the last 90 days. It's been almost a month and a half since the last photo update, and I like to see photos as well as video. My membership's going to be up soon, and I may sit on the fence for a while as well unless there are more frequent updates.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on May 22nd, 2019 at 3:24am
No disrespect Mike u put up a solid update but I too am going to hold off on buying a membership until I see more updates. I dont wanna pay for what u just put up because we might not see another update for a month. Also where are the armwrestling clips?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on May 22nd, 2019 at 3:34am
And just from a glance it looks like the Kendyl Nicole pushup video is corrupted. Unless she legitimately only does 13 pushups. If it is corrupt I assume there is absolutely no chance of that being rectified.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kinky Desires on May 22nd, 2019 at 6:07am

Plop13 wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 3:34am:
And just from a glance it looks like the Kendyl Nicole pushup video is corrupted. Unless she legitimately only does 13 pushups. If it is corrupt I assume there is absolutely no chance of that being rectified.


She does 14 then it fades out as she's standing up so this one's legitimate.

I'm with everyone else though. Not renewing when my membership expires (in around 6 weeks) unless the updates become more frequent, and even then I'd want to be seeing more regular appearances of 'action' videos such as pushups/grip/metal planks/armwrestling/gym workouts than we're currently getting.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on May 22nd, 2019 at 11:12am

Kinky Desires wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 6:07am:

Plop13 wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 3:34am:
And just from a glance it looks like the Kendyl Nicole pushup video is corrupted. Unless she legitimately only does 13 pushups. If it is corrupt I assume there is absolutely no chance of that being rectified.


She does 14 then it fades out as she's standing up so this one's legitimate.

Well that's disappointing.... I see there's a pushup contest on the Victoria Puentes page but that too looks like they probably only get to like 20.  :-[

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by spin on May 26th, 2019 at 7:52pm

Tre wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 10:22pm:

Kurtis Trent wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 5:07pm:
Guys, you do realize that`s the only website with working
message board...Tomorrow they will close it, and the end.


We don't have time to visit every day, but I hope we will keep the forum alive, because the feedback is often beneficial and for me (personally), there is a lot of good history here.

Tre, I think Mike made a reply to me a while back that indicated that the forum goes the way of the dodo bird when the new site initiates. I hope I misinterpreted that.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jun 5th, 2019 at 3:11am
After two updates we return to the same old situation >:( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Jun 5th, 2019 at 3:37am
So I just joined the site after staying away for a while with the lack of updates but It appeared to be some pretty solid updates so I signed up again. Straight disappointed to see that most of the galleries r from 2017! Same with some of the videos. I dont wanna see what a model looks like in 10 different outfits from the same shoot. I wanna see the progress these models have made. Its disrespectful In a way to them as well cuz I'm sure they want they're fans to see how they look today. Not 3 years ago

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by k4b4m4 on Jun 6th, 2019 at 2:29am
I had been a member since 2004, however, a few weeks ago I finally got tired of giving the benefit of the doubt for the lack of updates. It was sadly a case of spending money on a once well run site to one that has become a dead end. Disappointed in Mike, who I always considered someone that was upfront with the membership, but who has seemingly disappeared. Tre, well, I think we can all agree is totally useless. Good luck to those foolishly waiting around for the never to be release of HerBicepsPlus.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Jun 7th, 2019 at 6:08pm

k4b4m4 wrote on Jun 6th, 2019 at 2:29am:
Tre, well, I think we can all agree is totally useless.

At least he will add another dead project (after Femflex, Physique dreams, Shewrestle, Killer crushes...etc)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Jun 8th, 2019 at 2:06am
Can we please get some updates. Preferably from this year.. not some old ass shit most people probably already seen. Also still waiting on ARMWRESTLING CLIPS

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Jun 8th, 2019 at 3:15am
Armwrestling and max pushups are pretty much the only things that interest me about the site that are hard to find elsewhere for free. Armwrestling seems to have been dropped completely and the pushup vids are way too inconsistent and also seem to be drying up. Abbi K had the perfect attitude to this challenge; kept going until she couldn't and was clearly proud of her determination to show a real display of strength and willpower. Sadly she is in the minority, I'm aware I am the lone gunman in this battle and understand that in most cases seemingly all parties involved† don't really enjoy this sort of video so I thank you for at least producing this content in the first place.

I've got a few credits left so I'll purchase the next pushup/armwrestling vid and hold out hope for the future but I feel this might finally be the time for me to stop wasting my money.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Kurtis Trent on Jun 8th, 2019 at 7:36am
same, plus measurements...unfortunately there are only in super expensive VOD`s

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Jun 8th, 2019 at 4:26pm
K4b4m4: "Tre, well, I think we can all agree is totally useless....."

Hey ass hole. Just speak for yourself, OK? My opinion about Tre; whatever it might be; is none of your concern.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jun 9th, 2019 at 10:16pm
What have to do the website members to get a decent amount of updates, there are more than 40 pages of people claiming a better service and zero response of the webmaster.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Goodtimes on Jun 9th, 2019 at 11:21pm
It's crazy another 2 weeks with no updates. Mike u did say u would be posting more updates and that u had alot u could post. U did two updates 2 weeks ago and alot of them were from 2017. Smh

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by vidman on Jun 10th, 2019 at 1:34am
Well it's nice to see that there's still a never ending thirst for content around here. It may help some members to look at it this way.. just consider that the content providers are like having your own personal video crew who go out and work their a**es off dealing with all the shoot scheduling headaches, traveling and equipment expenses, editing/uploading/tech issues...and yet, provide you with the final polished "in the can" package for a fairly nominal monthly fee. In return, the collective membership revenue has provided your vid crew with a significant income to go out and gather up all of the content, so in that respect I'd say it's been a pretty nice symbiotic relationship over the years.

I do believe this team here could have easily been making 100+ times whatever they're currently generating in revenue if they were willing to step outside the box by tapping into a much larger audience, utilizing other methods to gain/retain a much higher % of memberships ...which, would then have allowed for a much greater amount of content creation = many more updates for their members. Unfortunately, they only seem to be interested in catering to a very limited (fetish niche) market. While thereís nothing inherently wrong with that choice it does apparently equate to some serious production limitation issues.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:30am

spin wrote on May 26th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

Tre wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 10:22pm:

Kurtis Trent wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 5:07pm:
Guys, you do realize that`s the only website with working
message board...Tomorrow they will close it, and the end.


We don't have time to visit every day, but I hope we will keep the forum alive, because the feedback is often beneficial and for me (personally), there is a lot of good history here.

Tre, I think Mike made a reply to me a while back that indicated that the forum goes the way of the dodo bird when the new site initiates. I hope I misinterpreted that.


It's tough to predict exactly what will happen, but the architecture that supports this database doesn't exist in the new realm. It is possible that all this history may soon be lost, and it's also possible that most users won't even miss it. :)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:34am

Kurtis Trent wrote on Jun 7th, 2019 at 6:08pm:

k4b4m4 wrote on Jun 6th, 2019 at 2:29am:
Tre, well, I think we can all agree is totally useless.

At least he will add another dead project (after Femflex, Physique dreams, Shewrestle, Killer crushes...etc)


I did LOL at this. Well-played, kind sir, except...all that content lives on - we're still releasing previously unseen material from those sites.† 8-)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by spin on Jun 10th, 2019 at 5:06am

Tre wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:30am:

spin wrote on May 26th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

Tre wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 10:22pm:

Kurtis Trent wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 5:07pm:
Guys, you do realize that`s the only website with working
message board...Tomorrow they will close it, and the end.


We don't have time to visit every day, but I hope we will keep the forum alive, because the feedback is often beneficial and for me (personally), there is a lot of good history here.

Tre, I think Mike made a reply to me a while back that indicated that the forum goes the way of the dodo bird when the new site initiates. I hope I misinterpreted that.


It's tough to predict exactly what will happen, but the architecture that supports this database doesn't exist in the new realm. It is possible that all this history may soon be lost, and it's also possible that most users won't even miss it. :)

HerBiceps Part Two: The New Realm. I kind of like it. It has that Hollywood sequel feel to it.

Listen, I donít care if the architecture no longer supports this old DeLorean of a board. Thatís to be expected, let one of Daenarysí dinosaurs eat it for all I care. But the architecture certainly exists for message boards. Many sites still have them, Reddit probably being the most popular. Find a brand new spanking template that suits the New Realm, and add it on. Youíre going to need feedback for the content you create, and you really need us to carry on talking about new names onto the scene, be they athletes, fitness models or celebs, that youíve overlooked or that merely add to the entertainment level of the site. The New Realm should not exist on VOD clips alone.

And Twitter, Instagram or Facebook are not acceptable substitutes. This is paid content, so the feedback needs to be in house.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by spin on Jun 10th, 2019 at 5:10am

Tre wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 3:34am:

Kurtis Trent wrote on Jun 7th, 2019 at 6:08pm:

k4b4m4 wrote on Jun 6th, 2019 at 2:29am:
Tre, well, I think we can all agree is totally useless.

At least he will add another dead project (after Femflex, Physique dreams, Shewrestle, Killer crushes...etc)


I did LOL at this. Well-played, kind sir, except...all that content lives on - we're still releasing previously unseen material from those sites.† 8-)

Hmm, any unseen Femsport material still hanging around?  ;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Jun 10th, 2019 at 2:18pm
You said a while back that you have the old HerBiceps Armwrestling Tournament video floating around somewhere, surely it would take minimum effort to upload that? No shooting, no editing, just someone digging through a hard drive. Why is it still nowhere to be seen? Chopping it up into separate matches so you can charge 90 credits a piece?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by vidman on Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:50pm
Ahhh..2 interesting projects referenced there, the irony..


Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Jun 10th, 2019 at 6:00pm

vidman wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:50pm:
Ahhh..2 interesting projects referenced there, the irony..

Which ones?!†

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by vidman on Jun 10th, 2019 at 6:04pm

Tre wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 6:00pm:

vidman wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 4:50pm:
Ahhh..2 interesting projects referenced there, the irony..

Which ones?!†


1) Femsport
2) HB AW Tournament

;)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by 6789shav on Jun 10th, 2019 at 8:42pm
Plop and Vidman: which HB armwrestling tournament are you referring to?

The one I'm aware of is the one from 2003 featuring the North Carolina State gymnastics team. There is an old category on the site called Female Bodybuilding Event coverage; or Contests and Events. One has to dig for it, but it can be found.

https://www.herbiceps.com/menu/stategymnasts.htm

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Jun 10th, 2019 at 8:50pm

6789shav wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 8:42pm:
Plop and Vidman: which HB armwrestling tournament are you referring to?

The one I'm aware of is the one from 2003 featuring the North Carolina State gymnastics team. There is an old category on the site called Female Bodybuilding Event coverage. One has to dig for it, but it can be found.

https://www.herbiceps.com/menu/stategymnasts.htm


Nah, it's one with a number of impressive muscle girls such as Steph Park, Rebekah Kresila, Shelly Yakimchuk, Angie Semsch, Amanda Swallow, etc. The only evidence of it's existence on the site is a number of galleries at the bottom of the "Armwrestling Pics" section.

https://www.herbiceps.com/menu/videoclippics/armwrestlingpics.shtml

Looks like the holy grail of HerBiceps armwrestling but the means to download it is long since lost, Mike mentioned around a year ago that they still had it somewhere and it would be uploaded at some point.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Tre on Jun 10th, 2019 at 9:53pm

vidman wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 6:04pm:
[quote
1) Femsport2) HB AW Tournament

The HB AW tournament was a direct-to-DVD production.† Mike would be the only one who could give any available background info on that. I don't even remember the exact year, though I'm pretty sure it was during the Arnold Weekend in either 2003 or 2004.

As for FemSport, there is a long, significant, and mostly forgotten backstory on that, but current owner/director, Nancy Lockington, and her team have continued to do incredible work for more than a decade.† I received a note just the other day that the recent event in Kamloops was big success.† I could not be more proud of Nancy, Carl, Dan, JP, and all the rest. If you would like to know more about their events and competitors, be sure to check out www.femsport.tv sometime.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by vidman on Jun 11th, 2019 at 12:16am

Tre wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 9:53pm:

vidman wrote on Jun 10th, 2019 at 6:04pm:
[quote
1) Femsport2) HB AW Tournament

The HB AW tournament was a direct-to-DVD production.† Mike would be the only one who could give any available background info on that. I don't even remember the exact year, though I'm pretty sure it was during the Arnold Weekend in either 2003 or 2004.

As for FemSport, there is a long, significant, and mostly forgotten backstory on that, but current owner/director, Nancy Lockington, and her team have continued to do incredible work for more than a decade.† I received a note just the other day that the recent event in Kamloops was big success.† I could not be more proud of Nancy, Carl, Dan, JP, and all the rest. If you would like to know more about their events and competitors, be sure to check out www.femsport.tv sometime.


Thanks@Tre - yes I've been well aware of both since their conception. As I recall the AW tourney was in 05' at the Arnold. Both projects had much greater potential imo with the right element additions/format modifications. Nothing that couldn't be easily revamped and improved upon in the future at some point.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jun 11th, 2019 at 1:35am
We want updates no information about old sites. >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jun 13th, 2019 at 5:25am
Another day without updates and the same disrespect for the members

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by vidman on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:35pm
Just inquiring for future reference, would weekly updates on a specific day (like Saturdays) feel more fair and satisfying, let's say 10 vid and 10 photo gallery updates per week?

And for Mike's crew, here's one method that could help retain more memberships..

Pulling some extra webcam footage and offering it as a bonus exclusively for those members who either keep their monthly active or purchase longer-term/annual memberships. Not only would this be an incentive to retain memberships but it's also good advertising to attract more viewers to the pay webcam site.

Have a great weekend, folks..

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:54pm

vidman wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 9:22pm:
Just inquiring for future reference, would weekly updates on a specific day (like Saturdays) feel more fair and satisfying, let's say 10 vid and 10 photo gallery updates per week?

And for Mike's crew, here's one method that could help retain more memberships..

Pulling some extra webcam footage and offering it as a bonus for those members who either keep their monthly active or purchase longer-term/annual memberships. Not only would this be an incentive to retain memberships but it's also good advertising to attract more viewers to the pay webcam site.

Have a great weekend, folks..†

Obviously it'd be more satisfying, this is what people have been asking for for over a year and none of it has materialised. Around 80 updates per month is orders of magnitude greater than what we get now which is pretty much 50 per month at absolute best; they haven't even managed to put a uniform update strategy in place yet let alone increase the output to that level.

I don't think there's any plan for them to reform the membership site at all, the webcams are raking in enough that there is no real incentive for them to uphold any standards. I can't really say they don't listen to customers as they do respond on the forums and have put suggestions in videos, but everything is just so half-arsed and unprofessional.

Broken links and corrupted videos are often released without being rectified. Most content is years old and there never seems to be any desire to work to catch up and get out the newer stuff. If there's such a backlog that the videos being edited are from 2017 then a decision would surely have to be made to speed things up and move ahead to the fresher stuff, instead the decision is to post all the content as slowly as possible and maximise subscription profit.

A regular update schedule is basically a requirement when you're paying money for a subscription model but it's something that is never, ever addressed even though it would surely be fairly straightforward to do so. The VOD site however is always regularly updated around once per week, hmm I wonder why that is?

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jun 14th, 2019 at 9:17am
Guys, Iím reading everything and understand the frustrations on several fronts. Obviously, we make more money on the cams than we do on memberships. Our membership peak was in 2004 actually. about 4 years ago, I realized I needed to make some radical changes to the business plan, and got over ambitious. As we gdevekoped the new HBCam and delved into VOD, market realities surprised me. I thought I knew some stuff, but I didnít know some things as it turned out and some things I thought I knew were just wrong.  Itís been a humbling experience. I apologize that the old HB site has gotten short shrift as weíve put so much time and attention into nursing the new sites along.

The internet changes entirely ever 5-7 years and itís difficult to keep up. Supply and demand in this market are both difficult things to get a handle on, and as a middleman for both it can leave ones head spinning.  Iím lucky to have the opportunity to continue to serve both in this market that I love and have chosen to work and operate within. Please hang with me for one more month, as paying members or not.  I donít mind the criticism, we deserve most of it. Mistakes have been made, no doubt. But at the same time, Iím very very proud of the new HBCam site and Iím very very proud of the VOD product we are able to deliver on that platform.  Iím hoping to be similarly proud of the new HBPlus site once we work through the kinks. Itís not going to satisfy everybody, but we will work hard to make sure itís a good tif than that makes sense for you guys and answers many of what is complained about here weekly in terms of value, frequency of updates, etc etc.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jun 14th, 2019 at 9:26am
Weekly updates for this site would have been a good idea, but we are just about at the end of things here hopefully. The new system operates differently and there wonít be nearly as long of a lag.

Webcam broadcasts will never be fodder for member or free clips. We donít own the footage from broadcasts in this way. We merely have license to broadcast performer feeds in the manner we broadcast them. We donít own it as content as such.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jun 14th, 2019 at 5:33pm
The webmaster ask for one more month but if he wants to keep our loyalty at least post a decent update

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jun 14th, 2019 at 8:06pm

Ricardo wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 5:33pm:
The webmaster ask for one more month but if he wants to keep our loyalty at least post a decent update



I shall, I didn't mean to imply there were no more updates coming on this site...I've got some in the works

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:30pm
More than 20 days to launch an update and still working on it >:(

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jun 16th, 2019 at 1:53am
There is a wrong link in the last update you can access with this correction:

https://www.herbiceps.com/menu/videoclippics/traceyguileclips.shtml

No new videos of Wendy Fortino

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by xhero on Jun 16th, 2019 at 5:38am
At least this time the update seems huge, I'm joining again  ::)

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Mike on Jun 16th, 2019 at 10:45am
Thanks for those notes...the Wendy Fortino clips were added but I didn't update the dates...I do those manually and it said 5.2.19 when they were actually posted yesterday...I've fixed that now

I'll fix the Tracey Guile link also, thanks



Ricardo wrote on Jun 16th, 2019 at 1:53am:
There is a wrong link in the last update you can access with this correction:

https://www.herbiceps.com/menu/videoclippics/traceyguileclips.shtml

No new videos of Wendy Fortino

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Plop13 on Jun 16th, 2019 at 2:53pm
The best update in a long time; multiple planks, grip strength and pushups videos and plenty of other content.

It'd just be nice now for there to be at least one more update this month rather than letting it get to the point where there's a barren 30 days and people start complaining again.

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Jcizzle on Jun 16th, 2019 at 2:57pm
IF itís possible......More Armwrestling clips! 😎✊🏾

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by Ricardo on Jun 16th, 2019 at 3:04pm
Great update, sorry for bother again there are no new videos of Wendy Fortino they are the same as 5/2/19 and also there is a 404 error in the videos of Georgia Kostopoulou

Title: Re: Lack of updates
Post by vidman on Jun 16th, 2019 at 5:17pm

@Plop - thanks for your reasoned and fair-minded insight.


Mike wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 9:26am:
Weekly updates for this site would have been a good idea, but we are just about at the end of things here hopefully. The new system operates differently and there wonít be nearly as long of a lag.

Webcam broadcasts will never be fodder for member or free clips. We donít own the footage from broadcasts in this way. We merely have license to broadcast performer feeds in the manner we broadcast them. We donít own it as content as such.


Ahh ok I wasn't aware of the contractual restrictions you have in place, or if the models are able to release some footage for marketing purposes. But in either case the method should also work well with extra footage from this or any of your other new sites. As long as it's exclusive quality footage that only those who continue their monthly memberships can gain access to.   

Just some promotional food for thought..

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